The Lost Diary

i knew from the desperate tone in Ben's voice, when he asked Jack not to phone Naomi's people, that he was more looking out for himself than the Losties. guess i was kinda right.

I think one of the things to worry about is what happens when you hand over Ben to the "rescuers". What if after they get what they came for, they just take off and leave? I think Jack needs to hold off on giving Ben up until he gets some kind of guarantee that they will actually rescue everyone.

In the picture with Ben, what is the massive pile of flesh...legs?

I think when he said,"There were no survivors of Oceanic 815." that he meant to kill any found survivors.

Duh, they are fingers....it is early.

Did anyone catch that the money Miles found in the boys' bedroom was the same kind of moeny that Charlotte handed over to see the polar bear remains?

heard a funny name somewhere online - freighter tots - love it. Good episode. liked that both locke and ben were surprised that hurley saw jacobs cabin. Interesting that the dude on the freighter was unable to take miles call - and that he asked daniel to take him off speaker phone. I was also suprised that the news coverage had images of the dead corpse - yeah, they show peeps that have been shot, but never decomposed underwater bodies. Need to rewatch it tonite!

My first thought of who Ben's man on the boat could be was Michael. Wasn't he put in a boat with Walt to leave the island? Since Ben is always thinking and acting before everyone else, maybe Ben knew this group was coming and he put Michael in place among them. Just thinking out loud......

I liked the episode a bit more than Daniel did.

Question 1 -- who was the *ghost* that Miles was talking to? Was it Walt? If so, then it would be Walt in the coffin.

Question 2 -- wasn't the point of Benry's surprise at Hurley not that he saw Jacob's cabin, but that he heard Jacob?

Last week, someone pointed out that we cannot be sure whether or not things are flashbacks or flash forwards. I'm beginning to thing that's the key. Naomi said that the plane had been found, no survivors. That would make the whole Oceanic 6 thing really weird. But, then, why was Dan crying? Was it because he had already been with the Losties *before* the plane was discovered, but didn't recall it? How can those things co-exist?

I have to say maybe I am still on the "high" of the new season but I thought this was one of the best episodes!! I was in such great anticipation for every scene!!!
I almost screamed when they briefly showed Sawyer and what looked like a lifeless Ben!!

Did anyone notice that when Miles made his final call to try and reach Abbadon that the voice sounded an awful lot like Naomi? I haven't rewatched it yet but thats what I thought last night.
I can only hope that they don't make Jack and Kate so nieve to believe that there really is noone on the island including the new cast members that they can trust....

Have a good one fellow Lost lovers!!!

If the pilot was able to land the helicopter, why was he all bloody and out of it? Also, it sounded like they were talking to Naomi on the walkie-talkie and they made a big deal about not bringing her body back to the boat. Maybe some sort of time travel thing where you cant see yourself in another time??

Not a bad episode.

did anyone else think the surfer bum rescuer looked like "the dude" from the big lebowski?

Maybe the "boaties" are connected/related to the Dhrama people that Ben killed. Perhaps the Dhrama project still continues and they have come to reclaim what was taken.

i always jump from these comments to read the ones on TMZ....everyone has such GREAT comments & theories!! another reason i love reading these blogs...i had a lot of...WTF moments last night. i was so excited when locke finally asked about the smoke monster....!

a friend of mine mentioned the season 4 promo posters....where the survivors are standing on the island but the reflection is a cityscape and the number "6" in the water....anyone know about this? thanks!

I LOVED THIS EPISODE! I liked it better than last weeks. It was so intense and the hour just flew by (not that we EVER want an episode of LOST to be over!) and left me (and my husband) wanting more. Can't wait til next week!

How can this be the 815 plane in the water? Didn't the cockpit land in the jungle?

First of all I would totally watch "Leave it to Sayid".
I liked the episode. There was less "holy shit what was that?!!!" moments than I expected, but it was solid.
I liked how they tied in the find815.com site with the flash backs. Oh and obviously they (faux rescuers) know something about dharma because of why else would Charlotte know to look for the collar in the desert. How much do they know and for how long? Must be some sort of covert organization that's been going on for some time if Ben had a man in the boat (ditto the thought that it's Michael).
And how did the pilot know so much about the passengers on 815? What was he looking for?

I actually thought this episodes was better than the first one. I loved that they jumped right into the back stories of the "rescuers" and that they are starting to get into what the whole conspiracy might be behind all this - making dharma connections to the rescuers, etc.

My question/observation is -- if they had found the wreckage of flight 815, why would naomi ask if there could be survivors on the island - she would have to have known that the wreckage was a cover up to even think that there would be any of them there. Why else would she even imagine that they ended up on the island.

And, aside from Daniel crying, Charlotte seemed to react strongly at the fact that the plane had been found - like she knew also that they didn't crash there.

I love that the beginnings of conspiracy are starting, and I can't wait to find out more.

We know that Jack is always naive in the beginning - it's almost a formula. He trusts everyone, John says the island told him that they shouldn't do whatever Jack thinks they should, Jack gets mad at John and starts his own plan, Sayid realized what's really up because, as you said, "Sayid knows best," Jack gets his ass saved by a combination of John/Sayid/whoever is not being dumb at the moment, Jack holds a grudge even though he was knows he was wrong.

Anyway - I loved the episode and I can't wait to see more! The comment about the helicopter not being able to hold a lot of weight was total foreshadowing to the fact that they can't take many people at once... Then Miles said he'd get Naomi on his second round - but maybe they take a couple people to the freighter and then never come back for the rest???

Wow.......I'm totally confused!

Be well all..........

What I’m really dying to know right now is what prompted Ben to join forces with the hostiles to kill off all the Dharma folks in the first place? I don’t think it was just his anger at his father. Why would he kill Annie and everyone else over that?

Also, I didn’t understand why Locke looked so surprised that Hurley knew where the cabin was? Didn’t Locke find Hurley outside the cabin last week? Or did Hurley wish the cabin away before Locke found him? And if that’s the case, is the cabin itself some sort of mystical thing that only a select few can see? Makes me want to go back to last season when Ben first took Locke to the cabin to see Ben’s reaction when they encountered the cabin and Locke was able to see it. Does anyone recall if Ben was surprised from the get go that Locke could see it?

its interesting...the "rescuers" that came for ben have gas masks. is it possible that Abaddon works for darhma and they're pissed that ben killed all their people and so they want to return the favor by gassing ben and the others??

daniel is a cryer because he is a genius. a common trait of being a genius is that they react very strongly and show great sensitivity to catastrophic events and worldwide plights.

i dont think Miles was in Walt's bedroom. i think that was some random scene to show his supposed gift.

good catch on Michael being the one on the freighter.

Did you notice that Kate let it slip that there are others on the island, when Miles asked her where everyone else was? She answered "some are back at the beach"

I think Michael's on the boat - that's how they know how to get there, and why Ben thinks that everyone on the island will die, not just the hostiles. The way Matthew Abbadon said 'there were no survivors' makes me think that if there were, they'd be disposed of.

So my theory is that Matthew works for the Dharma Initiative

Remember, the Hostiles are 'the good guys'.

I love this show.

Patrice: I had the same thought ever since Charlie wrote "Not Penny's Boat"...I think that Abaddon is a version of Dharma that evolved into something shaddy and secretive and that's the reason the Freighter Peeps are there for Ben. This theory would explain the gas masks---they must know that young-angry Ben gased all the other poor Dharma suckers and they were prepared for the same response.

am i the only one that thought that ben's man on the boat was the rescue-er guy that daniel refered to as a nervous meth-addict. he stopped the ghost whisperer guy from killing jack and kate...wait, ghost whisperer??? abaddon guy said that each of the rescuers were there for a reason...is miles there to talk to jacob???

does any of this mess link up.. or are we being fed a bunch of bull shit that will never tie in together to make a story?

its tooo preposterous. totally dead.

Buttercup: I'm soooo with you on the Miles/Jacob thing!! That will make for an interesting episode!!

"And Locke thought there were no pluses to having his kidney stolen from him by his con artist dad." Wow, Daniel, that is why I read your blog!! Bravo!

First off, the pilot seems like he's been on a binge out of guilt at having put his friend and family man on flight 815 so he ends up the Oceanic Nick Nolte. Guilt made him obsess about those killed passengers. Knowing his friend flew the plane made him question the "wreckage" footage on tv. So I buy all that. BUT in that storm how did he put the heli down in the forest below a hill? Isn't this why heli pads are usually on the tops of buildings and hills?

I found Daniel wearing a necktie in the jungle WAY more disturbing than his carrying a gun and gasmask!

My theory: these people represent Dharma, and Darma is pissed! Maybe they've been pissed for years but can finally see the island now that all the radar jamming equip is dead and the magnito field is shut down.

why do locke and hurly think that jacob's cabin is in different places...locke was heading to the cabin direction and hurley says, its over the other way. is the cabin in different places at different times??

I don't think Ben was surprised about Locke seeing the cabin because he knew Locke was special. Maybe that's why they were so surprised Hurley could see it because Hurley is always underestimated in the show.

I don't know if I'm just still in Plato mode from class last night, where nothing is in his books accidentally, but the cow thing is making me go hmmm... Why in the hell did they show the pilot/cow encounter? Was it random?

And why didn't anyone ask Charlotte why she was wearing a bullet proof vest?

I think Michael is a good bet for Benry's person on the boat. How about Patchy? Where's he?

& nate, i think you're spot on with your theory...i too thought that the voice sounded like naomi's but didnt put together that the frieghter might be in a different time than the island...that makes alot of sense. it sounds ridiculous but makes lost sense!! haha

did anyone else notice the reflection of a face when they showed the "pilot's" body? Was it Ben's? (Frank the helicopter pilot's backdrop)

Could miles be the son of the guy who hosts all of those weird Dharma films that they found in the bunker?

A couple of things I noticed:

When Daniel was crying watching them unearth flight 815, didn't the woman call him "Sam" repeatedly?

Also, when Daniel was waiting for Miles to talk to Naomi's dead body did you catch him mentioning how the light is so different? (I can't remember his exact words).

Sarah:
I think the bedroom was either Mr. Eko's bedroom or his brother's that Miles was in. They kept showing a picture on the wall, and it looked just like Eko when he was a yound child. The question at hand is, why was there not only money in that wall, but also some small packet that looked like drugs? He put the drugs back, like he didn't want the woman to know about them, but kept the money.

Another theory: what if the polar bear that Charlotte found was a previous Dharma experimental site?

Check out the reflected face. It's not the best shot, but...

http://bp1.blogger.com/_RrObyQ3XzcY/R6VvgsBE18I/AAAAAAAASwQ/1Sp7foV8q4k/s1600-h/lost1.jpg

First, who wouldn't want to be on Team Locke when our leader can predict the weather? Yeah baby! Can Jack do that? No way! Also, I'm totally down for "Leave it to Sayid." Jack is so freakin' lucky that Sayid is with him because he's just not that smart considering he's a doctor, you know? I love Sayid! And I love that Henry (Daniel called him Ben again!) is back to his old know-it-all self, even if he's being dragged around on a rope. I love him! Of course Jack would give him up in a heartbeat, but personally I'd like him around to give me some more info.

blair, i dont think it was Mr. Eko's bedroom. they lived in Africa. i really think it was very random. i don't think the boy or his grandmother are significant.

Cheryl, Daniel mentioned how the light scattering was very different on the island. due to particles in the air, light tends to scatter and refract. apparently, on the island, there must be some weird/low scattering pattern.

Here is the season 4 promo poster...

http://www.thedisneyblog.com/tdb/2008/01/lost-season-fou.html

Wasn't Daniel also the guy that kept dropping the model plane in his fishtank and it always landed belly up? Proving that the tv footage of the "wreckage" was wrong.

Just a quick observation... I didn't realize until last night that none of the flight crew are alive on the island. Any thoughts on that?

Also... I like the theory that maybe the boatie fb's are really ff's. Just one thing to connect the theories on this blog... If Michael is on the boat where is Walt? Maybe he left Walt with his Grandma (making the Miles ghostbuster scene a possible ff of Walt being dead). Just a thought...

Ok, a theory. Could be way off. What if the "rescuers" flashbacks were actually flash forwards? They have forgotten all about the island, but the news comes out that the plane has been found and it triggers something in each of them. Maybe why Sam/Daniel begins to cry and doesn't know why. Why Charlotte takes notice of the Dharma badge on the polar bear carcass. The scene with Naomi and Abbadon was probably a flashback though. Just a thought!

Cheryl: I thought the woman called Daniel "Sam" at first too, but then I rewound it and realized she was saying Dan.

I thought Faraday was an interesting last name so I googled it and found this- "The English chemist and physicist Michael Faraday, b. Sept. 22, 1791, d. Aug. 25, 1867, is known for his pioneering experiments in electricity and magnetism. Many consider him the greatest experimentalist who ever lived. Several concepts that he derived directly from experiments, such as lines of magnetic force, have become common ideas in modern physics." Interesting considering the island has crazy magnetic issues.

Also, I was reading on TMZ and people noticed that Charlotte Staples Lewis could be a reference to CS Lewis i.e. other worlds and time.

Finally, Miles got really pissed when Daniel almost told Jack and Kate his full name... I wonder what his last name could be?

Lissy: we know at least one flight crew member is alive - that flight attendant, Cindy I think her name is. She was taken by the Others when she was with Eko and that crew. Then we saw her again when the others had Jack, Kate and Sawyer captive. But I think that raises a bigger question...why did the Others want her and why did she just seem to assimilate right in with them?

So others agreed that Charlotte Staples Lewis = CS Lewis? My husband thought I was reaching when I made that comment last night.

Miles..and the narrator in the Dharma "training" video...hmmm..maybe that's Miles in the future...

Brian: the pilot guy totally reminded me of "The Dude"...
And yeah, the news would never show a bloated dead corpse on TV like that.

I can't wait to check out our Daniel on TMZ tonight..how cool is that- go Daniel!!

Did anyone notice when Sawyer called John Yoda? I get tired of his nicknames sometimes, but I though that one was partically suited for the moment.

I meant particularly. Can't type well.

I liked this episode. I feel like it is much faster paced than previous seasons. I'm not sure if I like it yet.

Anyone else thinking the person in the coffin might be one of the rescuers? Maybe Miles?

I think the boy/ghost and grandmother are going to matter at some point.

Leah- Awesome research!! And very interesting point about Miles I totally over looked his statement!
This is why I love you guys!!

Jack and Juliet trading Ben for a ticket home? Sounds like win-win to me. And judging from Sayid's face when he saw the chopper, he's going to be joining them. Nadia's waiting in LA, after all.

Leave it to Sayid to start asking Miles and Daniel the questions Jack and Kate should have been asking from the beginning. Actually, that would make a great show -- "Leave it to Sayid." Only instead of a precocious little boy getting into mischief, a hairy Iraqi guy tortures people every week. Tell me you wouldn't watch that?

I would, in a heartbeat. Priceless.

leah....benry said his last name when he was going off telling locke who the 4 "rescuers' were....it started with an "s" i can't remember it off hand...

also, in reference to last week's episode...right before hurley did the "cannonball"...did anyone look off into the horizon and see a city skyline? were my eyes playing tricks on me? was that intentional?

Everything is intentional with LOST!

They had pics of Ben and said they were looking for him. But, what's up with Naomi having a picture of Desmond?

Its Miles Strom

I don't pretend to have any of the answers but some of you people are reaching really far with your theories etc. To the point where you don't even make sense.
Anyway I agree we don't know WHEN we are anymore. Did you notice that Daniel Farrady was being called by some other name in the opening scenes - Fletch or something similar - pretty crazy how whacked out he looked.
I think its strange that Locke wants to take all those people to see Jacob or the Cabin - not sure what his purpose is...
I think its totally mean that Locke sent Vincent into the crazy jungle all by himself. ha. Even though Locke is the man.
I was totally impressed with Sawyer this week also.
And bringing find815.com into the show was pretty badas*. Do you think the main guy will be on the show soon?

Did anyone else notice that when Hurley looked into the cabin window, the guy sitting in the chair had on brand new white sneakers and his hair and body shape and also his shadow covered face looked alot like Jack's father!!

The pic of Ben looks pretty old - or Ben just has a bad stylist. But, the computer looks newer than the Darma 70s stuff. Think Ben left the island?

Do we think the writers actually have a game plan, or are they just "winging" it week to week?

I think that Ben's mole is Charlotte, thus the bullet-proof vest.

Oh, I think Jack will probably end up raising his hand, ooo, ooo, I know where Ben is, I'll take you to him! I am hoping he is not that naive or dumb, but sometimes you never know with him.

I also beleive that Matthew is part of Dharma, and for some reason wanted this special team of amateurs, like Naomi put it, to be the ones to go on the island to find Ben. Why would Matthew pick these types of people? And what does that make Naomi, exactly? A mercanary?

I bet you it is Michael on the boat...we all know he is coming back this season, what better way for him to come back than to have him show up with these people on the boat!

So many questions, so little time.....

Wow, Nate! Totally didn't see that. But now that you mention it. Good theory!!

You know what...just had a thought...we got two camps of Losties now wandering about, these rescuers show up...where are the Others? I know that Ben told Richard to lead them to the Temple at the end of last season, but wouldn't they have wondered what happened to Ben by now and come looking? We got people traipsing all over this island here, and I haven't seen any Others yet....could get interesting, especially if it is a Dharma "covert op" as Naomi put it, and since the Others are actually the Hostiles that killed the Dharma people.

I think the dead boy is related to Echo. The money in the wall was the same as the money Charlotte used. Echo was involved with drug runners and there were drugs in the boy's wall. I dont' think he's irrelevant.

i totally have a feeling these people "looking" for Ben are apart of the original Dharma Initiative. They were probably sent to the island to gas anyone that is there including him just like he did to those people. As far as the people that were sent... i have a strange feeling that they aren't the original people, like they were either cloned or perhaps those flash-backs were flash-forwards and they erased their memories. My other idea of those people... they weren't flash-backs or flash-forwards but if they were "cloned" those are their other bodies perhaps feeling a connection to what was done to them???

My husband insists that at approximately 9:36 (he even noted the time so I could ask around on here!), as Jack, Kate, Sayid, etc. were walking the rescuers through the jungle, a crowd of people was walking in the background behind them. We don't have DVR...did anyone else see this, or is he hallucinating??

Also, I'm confused about Jacob's cabin...when Ben took Locke to see Jacob, the issue seemed to be whether he could see Jacob, not the cabin itself...now the cabin is moving??

And where are the other Others - Richard, Cindy, etc.?? I think it's Michael on the freighter, but it really could be any of them...

This episode of Lost was awesome. I think that the group from the freighters were sent to gas the Others, just like Benry did to the original Dharma initiative. The question is-if all the original Dharma group is dead, how did the rest of the people know what happened?

Also..didn't Daniel Faraday look kind of like the guy who was locked up with Hurly who kept repeating the numbers?

The Faraday thing is interesting...as is the fact that in the 70's picture of Ben he is wearing what looks like a lead apron (to shield the body from the effects of ionizing radiation). Hmmm....don't know where to go with that thought...

I assumed that they had the gas masks for protection in case the air was still tainted, since they obviously know who Benry is they'd know what he did and is probably why they are there for him.

BH- I'm also curious about the picture of Ben. If Ben has been on the island since he was a young boy (and has never left)...how would the rescuers have a picture of him?

BH- I'm also curious about the picture of Ben. If Ben has been on the island since he was a young boy (and has never left)...how would the rescuers have a picture of an older looking Ben??

Interesting...

I think Locke was testing Hurley to find out if Hurley did see the cabin. When Locke asked him why he was crying for HELP, Hurley told him that it was because he was lost and didn't mention the cabin. Locke obviously knew they were in the vicinity and was probably at the cabin though Hurley didn't realize it...he definitely could have been that eye peering out that made Hugo run. I think that "Jacob" is inhabiting Christian's body. 1. It gives him a presence and 2. It will definitely through the "leader" of the group Jack off kilter.

I think the cabin Locke wanted to go to is the one with the knives and TNT - the one where he held his dad. I don't think he would bring everyone to Jacob's pad.

I think Locke was testing Hurley to find out if Hurley did see the cabin. When Locke asked him why he was crying for HELP, Hurley told him that it was because he was lost and didn't mention the cabin. Locke obviously knew they were in the vicinity and was probably at the cabin though Hurley didn't realize it...he definitely could have been that eye peering out that made Hugo run. I think that "Jacob" is inhabiting Christian's body. 1. It gives him a presence and 2. It will definitely throw the "leader" of the group Jack off kilter.

That can't be the wreckage from 815 underwater. As we saw in Season 1, the cabin crashed in the jungle and the pilot was "eaten" by the monster! Remember Jack and Kate were there?

Jen in Jersey, Cindy was taken by the Others initially with all of the children on the plane. back in season one, all of the children were taken by the Others. when they found the Others camp, Cindy said that she looks after the kids. Im pretty sure that they helped her "assimilate" really quickly. remember the room where Alex's boyfriend was found?

But the picture of Ben might not be of him off the island. It might have been taken in another hatch, or in a room we haven't seen before

True, Jenz. But, I really think he left the island for some reason. We know he had the means (submarine). The comment about his vest being a lead apron is interesting. I had just assumed it was part of a 3piece suit.

Note the computer monitor in the photo is not plugged in.

Two things- First, I think the reason Matt used these amatuer "rescuers" was because he has a dubious plan (whether the rescuers know it or not) and each of the four knows too much about the island (i.e. the pilot recognizing the dead guy wasn't the pilot and Charlotte seeing the polar bear with the collar, Daniel for reasons still unknown but which led to his crying and Miles still yet unknown). So if they complete their task great and if not that is fine too- they can be exterminated like the the rest of the Losties. The Exterminator is dead (Naomi) so that is a bit a problem now. Second, I think Ben left the island recently, which is how they got the picture of him (maybe before the crash of 815) in order to see a doctor. He couldn't tell anyone because the island should heal him right? Or Jacob should have? It would show weakness.

Here's my $.02~

I've been saying since last year that Michael is on the boat. I wasn't thinking of him being a mole, but it makes sense that he's there. The question is, why? And how does Walt figure into it?

I think Jack and Sawyer are switching places. Jack is so obsessed about getting off of the island that that he was willing to resort to murder. I think Ben's comment to Sawyer about how he and Jack would stack up in the real world is foreshadowing the 2 men's switch in roles on the island.

Oceanic 815 refers to a flight number, not a plane number. So, when the explorers saw an Oceanic plane on the bottom of the ocean, they assumed it was 815, but it's not like the flight number is written on it..... I think it's a plant by some massive covert agency with enough money to do it.

Solid episode, I agree with Daniel's grade. It did a good job of setting the rest of the season up, I think. Can't wait to see more!

First, congrats to Daniel! I will make a point to watch tonight!

You guys have some great thoughts!

"Leave it to Sayid" I laughed out loud Daniel, very funny. And yes, I would watch it in a minute.

Leah~ I googled Daniel Faraday too, I knew it was going to mean something. Very interesting.

My local morning show is obsessed with LOST and they called the 1-800 # on "The Dude's" TV. It works and it is an Oceanic recording.

Jenz~ wtf, a cow? Why a random cow? Did it have a Dharma collar on?!!

Blair~ I totally agree that the bedroom Miles went to has something to do with Eko. I don't care that they (Eko and his brother) lived in Africa, it has something to do with them. Was that Eko's mom? Grandmother? Someone said that the bedroom scene was not important, no way, everything on this show means something. Looked like heroin, who had a plane full of the stuff on the island?

Notice how why are handling Walt's growth? He was only 14 when the show started, now he's 17 and they are not letting his growth just happen and not mention it. "Walt" pointed this out to our morning show when he was on. They asked him how it was going to be handled. His reaction was a very sarcastic "maybe" it will be written in the story. Giant Walt calling the shots on the island, wtf?

Why did Faraday have a tie on? What a dork. He has no idea what the hell is going on. I think he will be the first of the new characters to die.

I think Abbadon wants Ben alive, and everyone else dead.

The chalkboard shark on the last episode is still pissing me off. I think someone is teasing us. Do the people writing think it has jumped the shark?

There's an article over on www.ew.com of an interview that Doc Jensen (the Lost guru for Entertainment Weekly) had with Jorge Garcia that was fairly interesting. The most intriguing question/answer had to do with the scene regarding Hurley looking in on Jacob's cabin---->

Doc Jensen="I understand when you shot the scene in which Hurley looks inside Jacob's shack, he didn't see Christian Shepherd in the chair, he saw...himself! True?"

Jorge Garcia="True. John Terry [the actor who plays Christian] did not work when I shot that scene. They shot me in the robe and slippers from [the mental hospital]. I didn't know if they were going to change it, or if the plan was to change it. [But] I don't think they would have shot it if they knew it wasn't going to be me, because I can't imagine them doing it just to throw you off the scent."

Karen~ I agree to that it will be Michael on the boat. Ben let him go with Walt, but it wasn't for free. He has to be the mole on the boat. My question: is Walt on the boat or island?

Here is a question for everyone: Since we think Michael and Walt are either on the island or boat, who's in the coffin? Ben or Locke seem to be the front runners.

Could Ben's man on the boat be the boyfriend, Sam? He's been getting info & emails from some "company." Maybe he's unknowingly giving them info back about who & what is going on with the freighter. Just a thought!

FYI - there is a recorded message when you call 888-548-0034, the number on the TV that the drunk pilot called.

Why am I getting that Deja Vue feeling with Ben acting like the poor little victim when really he had everything planned out like before when he was being held in the hatch. I think that we will soon see him come back into control. I love that he has remained calm, cool and collected for these past few episodes even though he has gotten his but kicked like every 10 minutes.

I don't think Ben and Charlotte are connected. Ben was throwing her the evil eye when she first met up with the group, and he shot her...Why shoot his own person???

Why do they want Benjamin Linus.. thats the question of the day. That and the power triangle between Ben, Locke and now Mathew. Jacob seems to be at the center of it all..

Oh and I love Sayid. He just keeps getting hotter and hotter. I hate to think of what happens to everyone if he ever gets killed off. He keeps saving their ass!

138. I have so many things to say... I had to take notes during and after the show and thoughts have still been coming at me like a semi-truck all morning. Sorry I missed so much, unfortunately life calls, but getting down to business.... these are my notes, in no specific order of significance.
-episode A+! Daniel, I think you should rewatch it.
-when we meet Dan crying watching the found wreckage, screen shows he's in Essex, Massachusetts (I assume at MIT). When Ben rattles off Charlotte's history, she's from Essex, England.
-the wreckage found underwater is a hoax. 1) the nose of the plane is on the island 2) the pilot would no longer have skin, even if its only been 3 months since it crashed. He'd be bone and the suit too would be in shreds and decomposed, no matter how well made it is, unless its plastic, which its not. Thats why Frank's obviously right when he calls in; however,
-that shows these people that they're not fooling anyone. Got to shut him up. The other rescuers don't 'fit' either, and Naomi knew it; Abbadon had to convince her of Frank being a great helicopter pilot. I think Abbadon has set them all up They are not meant to return, they're supposed to die on the island and therefore the truth of the island and the hoax of a wreckage, dies with them.
-I think Abbadon is the 'man on the boat' that Ben is referring to. How else would Ben know the 4 rescuers and their backgrounds before they even arrive? He and Abbadon are in cahoots, for what I don't know, but my guess is that the Losties kill Ben and Abbadon is trying to confirm that when he asks Hurley about the others being alive. I doubt very much that he cares about the random civilians that he enlisted on the mission, he cared about Naomi, but the others were strangers. He's hunting for info about Ben-
-Was the Tunisian desert find of the Dharma Polar Bear a fast forward? If so, Charlotte makes it off the island. Who is she anyways? I question everything and she has an accent like Penny and Desmond and can obviously speak several languages (the chick asks her 'how many languages do you have to read this in to believe it' she says "all of them")
-Could someone from last season be correct that the obscure island is the portal for some time travel continuum? Desmond failed to push the button that crashed the plane, and the survivors have unknowingly stumbled on some weirdo time-travel deal (I've already seen that you guys have picked up on the CS Lewis reference) just like in the lion, witch & the wardrobe (time passes when they walk through the furniture but only a few minutes have gone by in reality)
-Picture of Ben is also a hoax. The monitor has no cords.
-The Oceanic 6 are the first and only people off the island. Frank's helicopter takes them and they never go back. Note last night when they tried to load Naomi and he said he couldn't take more weight, "We'll get her on the next trip". My guess is there is only 1 trip. My bet is that Frank gets killed, Sayid is the only one who can fly it- Jack, Kate, Juliet (didn't someone verify that one gets off the island thats not a lostie? and I have no fricking idea how Hurley gets on...
-obviously Walt, Locke, now Hurley, and Miles all have some sort of mental ability. I don't think Ben has it. He does have an amazing mind and that compensates for a lot of it, and like Locke said, "he's harmless except for his mouth"...
-if the boy's room at the grandmother's isn't Walt, it must be the real Henry Gale. We still don't know the significance of his story, except that his balloon went down on the island...
-if the bedroom IS Walt's, he's not dead. Miles didn't get a reading from his room. His spirit wasn't there. He's not dead. Thats why he looked back over his shoulder. I think Miles found his stash because he knows where to look, I mean, he told the Grandmother not to come upstairs just for that reason. He's a grave robber!
-I think Miles is distraught about Naomi's death because she was the only one of the team that knew what they're dealing with. He's operating on street smarts only...I don't think Miles, Charlotte, Dan, or Frank know the real reason they are there.
-Have not seen Desmond in any group shots.
-Ben knows the backgrounds on everybody that comes to that island. He knew Ben didn't have a kidney there, which is why he shot him there... just tried to buy himself time. Remember that Ben told Kate, Jack, Sawyer and Hurley when he kidnapped them and let Michael and Walt go that "we don't kill people"...If he knows that the rescuers have come for him now, he also knows why-therefore he can assume they're wearing Kevlar (and they are). He knew he wasn't killing Charlotte- its all part of his game...now he's trying to get himself killed to preserve his secret, whatever it is (and I think he was going to tell it to Alex last night before Carl interrupted)... Thoughts anyone?

Posted at 3:51PM on Feb 8th 2008 by Lost in Texas

139. He's Asian? Mile

Here's my $.02~

I've been saying since last year that Michael is on the boat. I wasn't thinking of him being a mole, but it makes sense that he's there. The question is, why? And how does Walt figure into it?

I think Jack and Sawyer are switching places. Jack is so obsessed about getting off of the island that that he was willing to resort to murder. I think Ben's comment to Sawyer about how he and Jack would stack up in the real world is foreshadowing the 2 men's switch in roles on the island.

Oceanic 815 refers to a flight number, not a plane number. So, when the explorers saw an Oceanic plane on the bottom of the ocean, they assumed it was 815, but it's not like the flight number is written on it..... I think it's a plant by some massive covert agency with enough money to do it.

Solid episode, I agree with Daniel's grade. It did a good job of setting the rest of the season up, I think. Can't wait to see more!

Copied this off of the TMZ.com site and love this theory, you've just gottta read it!

108. Just a general theory regarding the island that I happen to agree with:

The various boats and planes arrive on the island via Vile Vortices. There are twelve "bermuda triangle" style areas around the world, dubbed "Vile Vortices." The most famous of the twelve are of course the Bermuda Triangle and the Devil's Sea near Japan. Some believe the Vortices are connected to each other via electromagnetic 'grid lines'. Of particular relevance to LOST are 4 - possibly 5 - different Votices: the Vortex located in the Pacific Ocean near Fiji; the one in the Mozambique Channel, East Africa; the one over the western Sahara desert; the one in Antartica; and (possibly)the one known as the Bermuda Triangle. The island acts as kind a central dumping ground, where the ships and planes and such are drawn to after entering one of the other Vile Vortices.

Those vessels brought in through the Fiji location: Flight 815, Danielle's vessel; Desmond's Boat; Henry Gale's Balloon? It would also explain why both of the helicopters from the freighter experienced electrical problems and the instruments were spinning - reputed to have happened many times in the Bermuda Triangle.

Those drawn through the Mozambique Channel Vortex: The Black Rock - the ship located in the middle of the island (Remember, in the episode "Exodus, Part II", when they came across the ship, Locke said the ship "must have been en route to a mining colony. Probably set off from the eastern coast of Africa--Mozambique".

Those drawn through the Sahara vortex: Eko's brother's plane. (in "Deus Ex Machina" When Boone entered the plane we saw a map in which the word SAHARA was prominently featured. Indeed the camera panned up from Nigeria to the Sahara suggesting that this was the plane's route.) It would also explain how a small beechcraft ended up thousands of miles away from its intended destination. Also, the polar bear Charlotte found was located in the Saharta - the polar bear could've been shipped FROM the Fiji vortex to the Sahara one - either on purpose by Dharma, or by accident.

The Antartica vortex: The two men at the listening station, who informed Penelope that they located the signal, could have been stationed in/near this vortex; A discharge emanating from the electromagnetic anomaly on the Island is enough to trigger one or more of the Vortices to open. It is also enough to alert the 'outside world' as to a disturbance via the electromagnetic grid lines.

The Bermuda Triangle: Juliette left from Miami - perhaps they used this vortex to quickly transport her to the island.

Also worth Noting: The name "Miles Straume" -- a clever play on the word 'Maelstrom' meaning a powerful type of VORTICE or whirlpool.

Posted at 2:05PM on Feb 8th 2008 by LOSTie

Did anyone see Doc Jensen's theory over at EW.com? I thought it was intriguing...

"But what if Ben's lying? What if his spy isn't a man but a woman — the same woman he just tried to kill? What if he and Charlotte are in cahoots and that shooting business was all a ruse — another move in Ben's 20,000-steps-ahead-of-everyone Island chess game? Theories! I have tons more of them, including the logic-tortured argument that Charlotte is the daughter of Ben's Dharma-days gal pal Annie. (Do the research — they look a lot alike!)" -- EW

LOST in TEXAS, the Bermuda Triangle Theory has been something i have pondered from the very beginning!

I think sawyer's in the coffin. This is why Jack asked Kate if she'd gone, and also why she got so defensive about it.

I wonder who she was referring to though, when she said "i have to go, he's going to wonder where I am."

I like calling the "rescuers" the "Freighter's of the Lost Arc." (For those of you who don't know, an "arc" being a line of episodes in a television series). And I want that Copyrighted, 2008. And maybe TM'd!

I DON'T think the Freighter's are part of Dharma, but they (or at least some of them) DO know about it. If they were Dharma, and wanted to cover up some type of conspiracy, then Charlotte would not have been so open in her quest to find the collar on the polar bear. She would have found it in secrecy, and quickly hidden it away. Plus, if they were Dharma, and were so concerned about evidence, why leave the bear there to begin with? And why wouldn't they be able to find the island while the radio frequencies were jammed, they knew where it was already!

Lots more thoughts, but low on time right now and need to watch again...later.

"'Leave it to Sayid.' Only instead of a precocious little boy getting into mischief, a hairy Iraqi guy tortures people every week. Tell me you wouldn't watch that?" - Our Host. Might be the funniest thing you have ever said.

My favorite part of the episode: when Locke asked Ben about the smoke monster.

My most WTF moment: why was Dude the Pilot all cut up when the copter was gently set down in a clearing? Mooooo.

Just a couple more...

I really like that whole Vortice thing, pretty clever.

Charlotte would have been wearing a vest because of Naomi's warning code "Tell my sister I love her." Same reason Daniel and Miles were packing.

I DON'T think it would be Michael as the "inside man" on the Freighter. Michael was set free because he turned over Kate, Jack, Hurley and Sawyer. Why would he have gotten on the freighter and then helped Ben more? He wanted to go home. No indication that he had aligned with the Others (who are conspicuously missing), just that he was trying to get him and Walt off the Island. Ben used to keep his word when he had to so as not to let the Others think he is a liar. Remember when he was talking about having to let Jack and Juliet leave because he promised and he didn't want the Others to see him go back on his word? Only reason they didn't was because Locke showed up to intervene.

Just noticed this when I watched the episode again. In the "flash-forward" (or was it back) when Miles did his ghost-whispering in the kid's room, there's a couple shots near his door, where the posters in the back-ground read "Battle Royale". There's a Japanese movie by that name where school kids are put on an island and forced to kill each other, the last one alive gets to go home.

OK, two more things...

I thought when Locke asked about the smoke monster that it was hilarious. It was the MOST OBVIOUS question to ask, yet so unexpected, and there was NO WAY we were gonna get a real answer to that yet. I was like, yeah Locke, way to get to the damn point! Then I realized, no way we learn that yet. And the cow was just funny too. My roommate asked why they weren't eating burgers!

Second thing, who remembers Desmond's vision about Claire and Aaron getting on the helicopter? Where were they in that scene? Were they in that field/hill where the chopper is now? Or the beach? I can't recall.

Miles' last name is Straume. Miles Straum is an anagram for maelstrom which means Whirlpool

Remember back when Mikhail had his own little hut in the woods, the communication center? That's where the cow came from. After Locke blew the place up and Mikhail went and got himself dead (hopefully for good this time), I'm sure the cow decided to wander off to greener pastures, so to speak.

Claire & Aaron are with Locke's group headed to the cabin and eventually to the barracks or somewhere else if Locke thinks of a better spot for them all.

i'm pretty sure the person on the phone at the end as zoe bell. she was in the credits, but not shown. she's the blonde stunt woman from death proof.

I loved this episode! I thought Miles took the tiny bag and not the money from the bedroom. When Sayid asked Miles what he did he said he collected soil samples. Were drugs in the bag or soil? Also, I think the cow meant the pilot was in the vicinity of the eyepatch man's home. Didn't he have cows and horses? I think the eyepatch man is going to come into play next episode. Thoughts?

Jon~ I agree, the smoke question was the best. Everyone wants to know. Almost funny.

I actually LIKED Jack last night. He wasn't acting like a total baby. As he gets closer to getting off the island his balls get a bit bigger. He will stop at nothing to get off, even (almost) killing our beloved Locke. I liked the "how stupid are you" line to Miles.

Oh how I love this show...

I really hope this isn't a time traveling thing. That concept is so terribly played out.

So far, I love the episodes...I am dying to know more things...but seriously...all of the questions John could have asked, he had to ask about the black smoke monster? Not about the kids, not more clarification on Jacob...but the smoke monster? By the by, Ben looked slightly confused as though he didn't know who or what the smoke monster was. John might as well asked him what happened to the toilet paper from the airplane for all the good that did him.

Love this show. I'm always looking forward to it and I like that the revelations come slow.

Ok so when they see charlotte running on the GPS screen and everyone starts running to meet it i go "how much sense does it make that jack is running in front of the person with the GPS" and instantly jack stops and makes an awkward turn back... to look at the GPS!

please go back and watch it's really awkward and it's not a LOST kind of mistake.

PS. i thought that miles might be related to Hanzo from the Dharma tutorial videos... because they look similar (but i dont want anyone to think i'm racists and assume that they're connected just because they're asian).

PPS. why did sawyer go with locke's group if all he is going to do is argue with locke? I'm more annoyed with the writers on this one. it just doesn't make sense...