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Don't forget, baby Aaron is Jack's nephew.. maybe in the future he knows that and is bitter...

I think she's saying Aaron is hers. Why else wouldn't she let her mom see him to get her to stop testifying? And she kept saying 'my son' and Aaron called her 'Mommy'!

Even though it wasn't the best of all the episodes, it definitely blew my mind almost more than all the others! Miles asking Locke for $3.2 million, Kate has Aaron (i had no idea that was going to happen until my boyfriend said one minute before - omg, what if it's Aaron) so I was really blown away with that (and just by the overall creepiness of Kate having Aaron) and then with the whole lie that Jack told.

Ah, I think I'm rambling, but that episode had this sort of sad, foreboding quality to it.

For someone who is so careful not to watch any commercials or previews of upcoming shows, I'm shocked that you would read fan e-mails or posted comments during the show. Don't read them!

I agree the episode fell short! The only good part, was the way Ben "plays" Locke, and in that last scene, the way Ben just twitches up his eyes-creepy!!!! I don't know how Kate could tell everyone Aaron is her baby, did you see how big he was..@ least a 2-3 year old toddler. Did anyone else think that Aaron "looked" a little funny?

Totally agree with you on the lameness of most of this episode. I love Lost because I love episodes where I am totally thrown by the ending. Aaron being presented as Kate's son in the "real world" - umm... yeah... saw that 5 min in.

I'm afraid that I'm gonna have to give the ff a D. The actual island storyline, I'll give a B. Sawyer in boxers an A+ (you with me Lauren?) LOL!

I kinda hated that I figured out Aaron was gonna be Kate's son which now gives us 100 more questions to add to that ever growing list.

I hope next week is a little better.

I think she is passing him off as her own but maybe not - I would just think someone would come out of the woodwork to claim him otherwise - distant relative or something.

I agree, the whole episode pretty much stank - why did she care so much about whether Miles knew who she was and what she had done - I thought everyone pretty much knew that - am I missing something?

Hurley's Scooby Doo line and Miles "technically it's extortion" - best lines of the night...

Our satellite/DVR went out about 5 minutes before the show was over but I had figured out that Aaron was the son by then anyway - not exactly a shocker.

The whole flashforward was drawn out and boring, as well as being unrealistic. Not like cool Lost/island unrealistic but just real world, that wouldn't happen, unrealistic...

You asked "How did eight survivors become the Oceanic 6?" - When Jack was on the stand he said that Kate worked to save all 8 people that survived the initial crash and that she was able to save 6 and she really tried to save the other 2 but wasn't successful -- presumably part of their lie is that 2 died from their wounds.

Kelly that makes absolutely no sense. Aaron isn't hers, everyone knows that. She didn't want her mom to see the baby because, if you watched the first season, her mom turned her in. Aaron called her mommy because he's what, one year old, he doesn't know what's up.

It was a good episode but what's up with kate's forehead and eye? Bugged me the whole episode.

when jack said on the stand that the plane crashed on the island, does that mean everyone now knows the plane found at the bottom of the ocean was a fake? how can anyone explain that? and how can the O6 explain how they got rescued, without anyone knowing where the island is that they were rescued from? you'd think everyone would be searching for the real wreckage to find the rest of the bodies, unless another fake plane was set up?

I'll only say this -- the ending was so blatently shouting "Hey, look, Claire's going to die at some point!" that maybe, just maybe, she isn't. That's one thing I have grown fond of on LOST - knowing that most of the "softball" foreshadowing really isn't at all. I hope we get an outcome that's much different than what most are expecting with this.

I rate the episode a 6 out of 10 as a whole. I totally agree that Kate acting like a moron brought the ep down a couple points. Four of the ep's points go strictly to Locke - this character might be one of the best that TV has ever seen (I mean, the grenade scene? C'mon. Absolutely awesome).

I love reading this blog but that is the extent of the "research" that I do regarding the story line - So... I was SHOCKED when Kate identified Aaron last night. I'm glad I was because otherwise this episode would have sucked for me.

So is Claire's blood on Jack's hands or does Jack now know that Aaron is really his nephew and it reminds him of another betrayal by his father?

I agree, this episode was not great, by any means. My wife, a very avid LOST fan, even before I was, fell asleep about 3/4's of the way through!

My thoughts on Kate and Aaron are that the kid's being passed off as her own child. There's no way they would award her custody, seeing how she's not family...oh and also she murdered a guy, and is also being tried for arson, bank robbery, yada, yada, etc. So, she had to have passed Aaron off as her real son, I guess. Also, if Jack finds out that Claire is his sister, wouldn't he be considered family and thereby be awarded custody...unless they're passing Aaron off as her Kate's son to make her look like a better person.

I just wonder how much time has passed, and how long they were really on the island. For Aaron to be that old (2? 3?), a lot of time has passed. I will say that Kates mother did say that the doctors had been giving her 6 months to live for four years now. That doesn't really answer the time passage question, but gives us an idea. My question is, why hasn't she died yet?

I'm going to say that Daniel has a problem with his head (obviously) and that he knows the island has mystical healing powers. So, the card test is to track his healing progress since his introduction to "the island." I guess.

The Miles/Ben exchange was pretty good, and plays into the whole Ben is an International Man of Mystery or something, but it also sets Miles up for being someone who cannot be trusted. The grenade thing in Miles mouth was stupid in my opinion.

So, we all knew that the copter wouldn't make it back to the ship in a reasonable amount of time. So, I wasn't surprised that they hadn't made it. But over a day? It'll be interesting to see next week when we find out how hard it was to fly the copter back to the ship.

I'm guessing that Kate was in Federal court? That's why it was taking place in California?

Did Kate already get her settlement from Oceanic, because that house was really nice, and she can afford a full-time Nanny. Is that Oceanic money, or money from someone else (Ben)?

I had the same thoughts about Sawyer playing backgammon, didn't think he would know how to play but he's a surprising one!

I think that Kate has lied and said that the baby is hers. I don't recall, did they ever say how long Kate was gone before she was captured? It's plausible for her to have been "pregnant" prior to her capture and then given birth on the island. Will have to wait and see on that one.

I'm also very curious about Miles and the money although it doesn't surprise me that Ben's loaded. He's running the show on the island so he'd have to have funding from somewhere. Plus we know that in the past he had left the island many times and had cash in various different currencies and passports. I bet Richard has something to do with that.

I am leaning toward the people from the freighter being Dharma looking for Ben since he killed their people. One possible clue is the cards that Daniel and Charlotte were using. They had the Dharma logo, but of course they could have been there already and not been Daniel and Charlotte's cards.

One question I have is where are the rest of the others? We haven't seen any of them this season except for Ben.

I like, TOTALLY knew that it was going to be Aaron. Is this show getting more and more predictable, or am I just that smart?

I was hoping for a slower episode this week, but man, not this slow. I loved the way Locke kept Daniel's mouth shut, classic Locke. But, was it just me or did anyone notice the picture on the wall in Aaron's room? It was to Kate's left as she was at the door, if you look you will see the 6 of spades, the same card used in the memory game on the beach. That can't be just an accident.

NEVER NEVER NEVER again will I watch Lost with someone who dose not watch all the time... too much time explaining. I give it a C-, liked the Sawyer and Hurley roommate thing going one, Olivia Newton John and boxed wine, and the gernade in the mouth was kinda neat, loved Hurley's Scooby Doo line

this episode sucked - and I'm not a Kate-hater. The whole episode felt like filler to me, especially after the 3 first episodes that rocked. The Miles-Ben meeting saved this episode from being completely wasted.

Tootsie1: I agree with you - the first seconds I thought that Kate's baby had a mental disability because of the Island.

Kate couldn't pass Aaron as hers, she would have needed to be 8-months pregnant when the plane crashed. My guess is that she adopted him because his mother "officialy" died on the Island - making Kate even more of a hero. That would explain why her lawyer wanted to bring the baby in court.

thank goodness for Sawyer in boxers... at least the hour wasn't fully wasted. LOL

Oh yeah, can Aaron be considered one of the 6 even though he was born on the island and not listed as a passanger?

First of all, my head just about exploded at the end of the show. Not that I didn't see it coming, but I think they made it too easy...Is that really the same Aaron? I think not. How does a not pregnant Kate get on a plane and then get rescued with a son? Do the math. This episode was a little limp. We still have a long way to go until they get off the island though...

My husband and I watched last weeks right before this weeks, and my husband caught that the helicopter guy (forgot his name) told Saiyd, "You bring Charlotte back safe, and I'll get you off this island." He didn't say, "I'll take you back to the ship" like Saiyd had asked. So I wonder what helicopter man's motive was?
This weeks epi definitely fell flat from last weeks, but in my opinion, there's never a bad week for Lost. Even re-runs are great because you catch new things.
Thanks Daniel for your great posts!

The whole thing with Aaron is kinda creepy. Remember in season one when Claire went to the physic and he freaked out and siad that her baby HAD to be raised by her or bad things would happen. Well it looks like that didn't happen.

Also, with the eight survivors, Jack said on the stand that two died on the island, I wonder if they recovered two bodies and had to account for them????

I don't see any legitimate way (quality writing-wise) that Aaron can be living with Kate as her son (as opposed to Kate having her own son and naming him after Claire's Aaron which is also weird). She can't possible be saying she gave birth to that child, the people off the island would have known she wasn't enormously pregnant (I'm sure the martial would be expected to say something to his co-workers when he got her in custody, they would have been expecting to know that information and would be surprised to see her with a kid and not have received any word that their fugitive was pregnant). And how on earth would anyone give custody of someone else's baby to a dangerous fugitive with such a record. If they are passing it off as Claire's son Aaron, then they (our beloved writers) are totally cheating.

Aside from that, why does Locke continue to let Ben get to him that way. That's getting stupid. But Sawyer...yummy. Thanks for that beloved writers!!

Here we go:

First, I didn't like the episode much and it had a much different flavor I thought. I read yesterday that this episode was not written by Cuse and Lindelof, but two others, one being a woman (can't remember the names, sorry). I think it shows...

That being said, here's my take:

-Kate is obviously Aaron's guardian. I think though that you haven't recalled the initial scene between Kate and her lawyer when he basically pleads with her to put 'him' on the stand to show her heroism and her amazing character... after which she says, "You are not going to put my SON on the stand"... I think that Aaron knows that Kate saved him/adopted him and that Claire is gone... why else would a lawyer want to use the boy as a character witness to explain what all she had done?

-Jack loves Kate. He lied on the stand. The only thing that has ever stood between Kate and Jack has been Sawyer. Is it possible somehow/someway that Jack doesn't know that her son is Aaron, and he thinks that her son is the result of the lovemaking between she and Sawyer that he witnessed on the tv monitor? To me, that would be the only thing keeping him away from that baby, is if he thought it was Sawyer's child.

-I find it strange that Miles says to Ben, "Do you think I don't know who you are!?" as if 3.2 million dollars is petty change for Ben. Its interesting that so much money is so readily available to Ben (who can't access it from his prison cell, but 'given til the end of the week' will be able to have it for Miles?)... lots of money, Elsa and her Economist, but who's not an economist at all (says Sayid)... an economist deals with the world's money and its bend and flux... interesting...

-Another thing, this time a question: in Desmond's flash of Claire and Aaron getting off the island... I don't remember this, but did he actually see Claire boarding the chopper, or did he just assume it was Claire because she was holding Aaron? Could it have been Kate?

-That being said, where the hell is the chopper?

-Note how the chopper took off last week carrying Sayid and Desmond and there was clear blue sky and not a ripple of waves on the sea... next week they encounter turbulence and according to the network, "Desmond has a bizarre reaction", does he age?

One more thing about Kate/Aaron: I think the reason she didn't want her mother to meet her son was not because of what happened in the past; she was desperate to have a 'get out of jail card' and she would have exchanged a meeting for freedom I think... but, her mother won't see a lick of resemblance between the boy and Kate and know that he's not hers... Kate must protect the truth at all costs, for what reason, I'd love to know!

I think Kate could easily pass Aaron off as her son, which she is. At this point, we don't knnow how much time has passed before the "6" get back to the real world, it could easily be a year or two. Not to mention Kate has been on the run for so long and she is pretty tiny- they could lie about Aaron's age by a few months making it very possible she was "pregnant" when she got on the flight. Though Claire was 8 months, they could say aaron is really 4 or 5 months old younger and that kate was only 4 or 5 months pregnant.
It does make me wonder why Jack doesn't want to see him...is it because he played a part in claire's death? Or because he has found out by now that Aaron is his nephew and he feels to much guilt because of a possible conflict that played out involving his father (who could be jacob!)...?!
I also did notice the 6 of spades in Aaron's room, and that can NOT be a coincidence...same card Daniel and Charlotte were looking at on the beach...

trying to figure out why kate's lawyer requested her child to be a character reference at the beginning of the show. isn't he too young to be put on stand?

or did i miss something?

One more thing regarding my arguement for Jack possibly thinking Aaron is Sawyer's child and not Aaron... Kate's mother mentions that she's dodged death now for 4 years, so could it be possible that Jack thinks in that time that Kate gave birth to this child (the age would be about right) and left the island pregnant?

If that were so, Kate and Jack leave the island separately...

apologies, my typing got flawed... if Kate's Mom says 4 years have passed since the plane crashed, that coincides with the apparent age of Aaron (as seen in the flashforward)... so maybe Kate is passing off Aaron as being her own son to even Jack; but that would mean that Kate and Jack left the island at separate times... did I explain that better that time? Hope so

Did Kate not want her mom to see Aaron b/c her mom could tell that she looked nothing like Kate and could not be hers?

don - i saw the picture too. but if you look on the bookshelf, and everyone thinks im crazy because they havent seen it. But if you go through the scene in slo-mo i swear i see the dolls that annie gave ben on the top shelf as kate is walking into the room.

i think it seems weird that kate won't see jack unless he goes first to see aaron. if there's a legitimate reason for jack to be upset about aaron (sawyer's kid, claire's disturbing death, etc.), why wouldn't kate understand better? she seemed so eager for him to visit aaron, yet she won't meet jack for coffee?

When they finally showed Aaron at the end, he was obviously a toddler--maybe 2-3 years old. Yet, this trial seemingly took place not long after they were "rescued" and before Jack's breakdown. Another another clue that time passes at a different rate off the island v. on the island?

do you think that the "RG" on the bracelet stands for Republican Guard? Sayid may have been romantically linked to Naomi when they sent her to the island. Thats why he was so concerned for her dead body when I'm sure hes seen many others before... He probably took the bracelet back before giving it to Elsa. The original "N" may have been someone else to begin with though. Maybe Nadia?

OK, I have read this website for a very long time and never made a comment. You all may crucify me for saying this, but I did not think this episode was as bad as you think. I personally found the story that Jack told about the survivors was very interesting. I believe that Aaron is one of the six. My theory is that the last one is Sun and the 2 people who did not live after the crash were Claire and Jin. They had to survive to explain Sun getting pregnant on the island and Aaron being born. Which brings me to another theory, I think Kate adopted Aaron and is not lying about her being the biological mother. Also, I don't think Claire is dead, but for some reason she was left on the island. Oh yeah, and I think that these flash forwards are not necessarily the end of the story for the Oceanic 6... I actually believe that these flash forwards take place in the next couple of seasons and the final season may involve returning to the Island. All of these are just my personal opinion. I will say that any scene with Sawyer's puppy dog eyes is my favorite!! Anyone agree or disagree with me?

JMR: Kate's Mom says that she's dodged death for 4 years since the plane crashed. Furthermore, court cases take forever. Time has passed... also, her lawyer said she had been released on her own recognizance up til the hearing to set bail... she has a huge house, a nanny, life, etc... makes the comment to Jack that "she's heard him tell that same story to so many people, so many times that he sounds like he believes it now" as if to say they've been keeping up the lie for a long time now...

ps i love the line when Locke brought ben a book who said he already read it and in response locke says read it again, you might find something you missed before.

a writers tribute to the fans who watch over and over again? or mayhaps a clue to watch last nights episode again for any hints?

Slam,
I made that RG connection last week too, but according to the writers, 'sometimes a bracelet is just a bracelet'... (which I don't know if I believe or not)... my other thought was that the bracelet belonged somehow to Ruth (the jilted bride of Desmond)... only because Ruth tells Naomi (in the Bible) the same message that was on the bracelet...

LiT - I don't think Kate's mom said it has been 4 years since the crash. I think she said for the last 4 years the doctors have told her she only has 6 months to live. Remember Kate's mom was very sick in one of Kate's flashbacks before the crash - Kate visited her in the hospital - so I don't really think her saying 4 years gives any clue to timeline events were taking place in last night's episode. We don't know how much time passed between Kate's visit to the hospital and the plane crash. Her mother's doctors could have been telling her she only had 6 months to live before the plane crash even happened.

Does anyone else remember when Sun took the pregnancy test, and asked Kate if she had ever taken one, and Kate said yes?

First off, shout out to Ana (the original), Janice, Susan and the rest of us long-timers. I've been out of the loop for awhile.

I knew it was going to be Aaron as soon as Kate said she wasn't pregnant ... which was probably why she went over to Sawyer's. she got her period and knew she was OK. Which also explains the cuddling.

Which reminds me -- no way that Jin and Sun will get off the island in one piece. Jin is gonna die and not be able to raise his son (guessing son here), and there is no way he's going to go back to living in Korea with his father-in-law.

I started thinking last night about the whole Man of Science, Man of Faith. Jack is running a democracy with a strong leader ( or I could just be saying that since I love Jack, even when he is annoying).

Locke is running a theocracy but as a weak leader. His hissy fit when Ben wouldn't give him what he wanted was embarrasing. And, if he's going to throw a hissy fit, wait until you are far enough away that Ben can't hear you! Totally ruins the effect, you know?

It was a C episode -- but I give it a B for Sawyer in boxers on the bed. Kept hoping for a junk sighting .... bad girl ....

Kate can not pass Aaron off as her own child. They have only been on the island for about 90 days. So Aaron is about 3 months old and Kate would be about one to two months pregnant. By the time she had the baby back in the "real world" she would have to pass off a crawling Aaron as a newborn. I think Jack can't see Aaron because of whatever happens to Claire. We know she will get on the helicopter with Aaron, because Desmond told Charlie he foresaw it and that led Charlie to flip the switch at his own peril. So, whatever happens to Claire, happens after she gets on the helicopter. I guess Aaron is the sixth of the "oceanic 6".
I too, didn't care for the Kate "tell me what I did" storyline. A little farfetched. The only thing I can think of is that she just needed a reality check before she would decide to leave the island. Why she would think that she was no longer "wanted" in the "real world" after 3 months of being thought dead is a mystery to me. It would have made more sense if they had been on the island for years, and she wanted to see if she is still a "wanted" woman.
This brings me to another thought. Aaron looks like he is about 2 years old. That means that in the flashforward they have been off the island about two years. Some time later, Jack with his facial growth, meets Kate later and says they have to go back. So, if they go back, what things would have happened on the island in those two years? That could be very interesting.
I am loving Miles. He is so funny. Obviously, he had a definite purpose in mind when he came to the island. I wonder what he told Naomi and her boss his reasons were for coming to the island.
Ben is obviously a time traveler, and makes a lot of money by doing it. Maybe he stole the device or information for travel from this group that is trying to get him.
Why haven't we seen a flashforward of Desmond? Maybe he doesn't make it safely back to the real world, in which case, there is another person who is part of the oceanic six.

1) When Locke was cutting up the melon for Ben, did anyone else notice it had a sticker on it, like you'd see in a grocery store? Is Dharma still making food drops? It's probably not relevant in any way, but I thought it was a little bizarre that they're living on a tropical island and eating tropical fruit bought from Food Lion or somewhere. Maybe the props guy messed up on that one.

2) This has been bugging me for some time- where does their electricity come from?? I haven't seen any wind turbines or PV panels on those little houses so someone must be refueling their system some how. None of the Losties seem too curious about how that town functions (unless I missed that episode). I totally love the black smoke monster and Jacob's disappearing cabin, but the unrealistic power supply bugs me =) Go figure...

Something must happen to Claire either on the island or on the ship,if Kate is passing off Aaron as her own son. Then maybe Claire gave Aaron to Kate to save him from whatever conflict happens on the island right before the "Oceanic 6" return to civilization.

Also the card in the game that Daniel and Charlotte were playing was a 6 of clubs, the card in the picture in Aaron's room at the end was a 7 of spades.

Tracy, I didn't mean her mother said it had been four years since the crash (oops). I meant to say (and said in my above post)that she said that she had dodged death for 4 years... shortly after she became ill, Kate was found by the Marshall in Australia and extradited to the US and boarded 815....

I don't know how this all connects BUT the 6 of spades card shown on the island and the one in Aaron's room somehow relate to the fact there are 6 Oceanic surviors?

I totally agree with tootsie1 about Aaron looking funny. I thought he had down syndrome.

Why is it surprising that Sawyer can play backgammon? He chooses to read over watching tv.

Am I the only one that HATES Locke?? I think he is turning into an evil person. Who made him the ruler?

It was a 6 of clubs on the island and a 7 of spades in the picture in Aaron's room.

I was wondering if anyone thought the same thing I did initially:

when Kate asks Miles, do you know who I am and there's this long pause... did anyone think that he was going to use his voodoo magic on her?

Kate's mom (Diane Janssen) saying that she has been dodging death for four years, doesn't tell anything really about when those four years took place. She was sick well in advance of the plane crash. Her saying that could include time before and after the crash. But, I will say that maybe there's a connection with Diane staying alive and Kate's connection with the island. Why exactly hasn't she died yet? Has someone (someone that can "cure" cancer) been keeping her alive? Remember when Juliett's sister "beat" cancer?

However, it's obviously been a while since they returned from the island to the real world. How long? I'm sure we'll find out by the end of the season. My guess is they've been back between 1 and 2 years by the time this FF occurs.

Daniel, Why don't you just close out your lost diary email before Thursday, so you can't read other people's spoilers? I think the fact that you knew what was going to happen made you a little bitter and prejudice agaist the episode before it happened. Shame on those people spoiling it for you!! Honestly, I avoid absolutely everything about Lost all week except the discussions the day after, so I was enjoyably surprised at the end. I really thought that Kate was pregnant so that is the only reason why she would have agreed to leave the island. Finding out it was Aaron was a great surprise and saddened me because now I want to know what happened to Claire, about how much time has really elapsed now that Aaron is so much older,why does Jack afraid to see Aaron .... and most importantly why on earth wouldn't anyone sleep with Sawyer? Did you see how he looked in his boxers?!!! :)

Did anyone have any comments for why Miles wanted to be exactly where he was (tied up?)... I assume it was because he knew he'd get closer to Ben that way, but still an odd thing to say...

Also, Abbadon sends an archaeologist, a physicist, a pilot and a psychic... if the island has healing properties (examples Locke, Rose) wouldn't they bring a doctor to do cell research, etc?

Wondering if Daniels' card recall 'game' was an attempt to see if the island 'gives you mental power'... another experiment of his (like the payload from the week before)

I agree with Tracy. We don't know how long Kate's mom was sick before the plane crash. I am aware that court cases can take years; I have been a lawyer for almost ten years. However, in high profile criminal cases, particularly if were in Federal court, it could be pushed through surprisingly quickly--especially since Kate appeared to just want the whole thing over with and we assume she sought to avoid any delays.

jmr good point

Oh, and another comment on the time line. Kate's lawyer said she was out on bail pending the trial, then she went into custody ... It is very rare in this county that any murder trial is finished in one year, no matter what L&O says. We have no idea how long Kate was in jail. If the DA was willing to let Kate get off with time served, my guess is she was in jail for at least a year. That would make Aaron at least 18 months.

Something must happen with Jack later on that sends him off the deep end. Maybe the lying gets to him, or maybe he sees Ben or Sayid or something -- but he doesn't go off the deep end for a while.

And what was the significance of the 6 of clubs? (seen in the scene with Daniel and Charlotte also in Aaron's room in the ff)

Did anyone catch when Locke said something like "I'm supposed to watch over the island"? What do you think of that?

Guys, I TOTALLY just thought of something. What if Kate's Aaron really IS her baby, and she names her son after Claire's Aaron, who for some reeason didn't make it off the island?

I am a veteran of this blog, and I have been watching this show long enough to know that when something seems so apparent (like we all think this is Claire's son).... it usually isn't.

Also, all of this time travel talk has yet to be fully explained, and may be the reason why Richard never aged on the island, and also could be the reason that Walt wil be so much older when he eventually resurfaces on the show.

did anyone add up the numbers in the cards? Just wondering about 'the numbers'

Oh come on now all these people saying they didn't think that Sawyer wouldn't know how to play backgammon is just plain silly. The man is always walking around with a book and they obviously are not romance novels. The man was a con artist for some time and therefore has some level of smarts beyond that of normal man. Backgammon is not a difficult game and Sawyer could probably play it easily. Now Chess... that would be a game that I think would be beyond Sawyer's skill levels.

Okay, everyone keeps wondering what is the deal with Jack/Kate/Aaron.

I agree with a lot of people that he found out Claire/Aaron are family and he has to deal with Claire dying/not making it off the island.

OR

I hate to say it and yes I will cry when it happens, but Sawyer is not going to make it. How he dies I have no idea...Kate and Jack (and the rest)get off the island. Maybe Kate is able to hide out for a while with Jack...they do their thing and she gets caught? Maybe (like I said, far fetched but just maybe) Jack is Aaron's (Kate's Aaron) father and somehow him and Kate have a fall out and he didn't know she was pregnant until whenever.

Sorry, the more I try to explain it the more I think I'm living in a soap opera world, not a LOST world.

Ana, you could be on to something...

I think that the baby is being passed off as Kate's to hide the "time" properties of the island. If the outside world moves faster than Island time then Claire's baby would have to be older.

I agree at first the way the boy was moving suggested some impairment which I think they did to try to make us believe that this was Kate's kid and that something went wrong.

Was Jack wearing the same suit he had on when he went to see Hurley? What is the timeline?

This epi was not all it could have been but there were a few good Locke moments and the Scooby Dooed line was the best one of the show.

Why doesn everyone think that everyone else dies that doesn't get off of the island? Why can't the rest of the survivors just be left behind, either by their own choice, or because they're forced to?

Okay, reading more posts. Saw the card in Aaron's room actually a 7. SO, does this mean that Aaron is not one of the Oceanic 6? Is this why Kate was so adamant about not having him brought to court? Is there someone she fears will find out that instead of 6 there are actually 7? This show is driving me crazy!

Anyone notice the 4 toed robots/statues on Aaron's wall?

I agree about Sawyer. Just because the man looks like a bum, he's hardly lacking in intelligence. In fact, I thought his 'Baa' comment to Locke last night was very, very insightful to just how smart Sawyer is. He's quite intelligent I assure you!

I JUST HAD A FLASHBACK OF MY OWN!

In thinking about Sawyer being smart pulling off his cons, remember how he pulled that con on that lady's husband and she fell in love with him and had his baby... WASN'T THE BABY'S NAME CHARLOTTE?

Gotta go check on lostpedia...

His daughter is Clementine...how nice would that have been though LiT?

nope, daughter wasn't Charlotte, but Clementine... my bad.

Megan - I said that I noticed the dolls on the bookshelf, but I thought they looked like the ones Annie gave Ben.

as far as the O6 claiming that claire died in childbirth and kate cared for aaron after her death-- major problem would be explaining how they fed aaron and kept him alive. no formula, no mom to breastfeed, no way for baby to survive without one of the two.
they could still claim that claire died, they would just have to say it was, at the most, 2 days before they were rescued.

this doll thing has me going to TiVo right now... could it really be them????

A few of you mentioned that you thought Aaron looked like he had downs syndrome, which is exactly what I thought when I saw him. But then I quickly figured that maybe the little boy portraying him is just a little odd looking. We didn't see a full frontal face shot. Although, I have to admit that Aaron having perfect genes on the island, because of it's perfecting properties, and then Aaron being found to really have downs syndrome in the real world is an interesting element. Maybe this could be why Jack doesn't want to see him. Maybe Jack talked Claire into leaving the island (since we know she gets into the helicopter) and feels guilty because not only did Claire die, but Aaron has some medical issues to now deal with in the "real world". Just a thought.

Also...whose to say Kate isnt lying to Sawyer about being pregnant. She knows Locke won't let her stay and that Sawyer has nothing to go back to so he's going to stay. Maybe Kate wants to leave the island because she is pregnant and she doesn't want to die there and she doesn't want Sawyer to feel like he has to come along or she doesn't want to deal with the Sawyer/Jacke awkwardness

OK, A thought on Aaron being passed off as Kate's son. Are you all forgetting the space time continuem that we learned about last week. At the time of rescue, Aaron had probably not aged as much as he would have in real time. So, yes, I believe Kate has passed him off as hers. Lets say the got rescued after 150 days. Aaron would be less than a year old, but maybe, out in the real world they have been LOST for say, over a year, so they could say, Kate was just barely pregnant when the plane crashed. I do agree at first I thought Aaron looked funny. His head looked to big, but then he looked normal once we saw a full shot of him, so I think the camera man is just playing tricks on us.
Also, I think strong attention should be paid to the fact that Kate can't leave the state for 10 years. Which relates back to my theory last week that all of the Oceanic 6 must get on a plane together and go back to the island. You saw it here first people. Mark my words :) (I'm probably way off base)
Lastly. I'm really ticked that they are counting Aaron as one of the Oceanic 6, but it seems they must be, because I thought last week in the previews they said they would reveal another Oceanic 6 this week.

I agree with Larry, one of the early posters...I don't think there's any way Kate would be awarded custody of Aaron with all of the charges against her. She has to be passing him off as her own. And the reason I think this is possible is because of the time differential...a lot more time probably passed in the real world. I also agree with someone else who said that Kate's mom didn't necessarily say that 4 years had passed since the crash, just that she's been given six months to live for the last 4 years, so that doesn't really tell us anything about how much time has passed since the crash.

My theory on how no one thinks it's strange that Kate now has a son: Yes, she is saying it is "her" biological son. But even though our Losties have only been on the island 3 or so months, in the real world much more time has passed - even up to a couple years. So they are able to pretend that she got pregnant on the island, then had the baby there. I think the Daniel 31-minute time thing from last week was a hint about the time being different on the island than everywhere else.

Maybe Kate was lying to Sawyer about not being pregnant to see what his reaction would be. Remember, she was trying to decide whether to stay on the island and "play house" with Sawyer, or leave and possibly face her criminal charges - which is why she wanted to know what Miles knew about her and what she had done in the "real world". Sawyer was very happy to find that Kate wasn't pregnant and she seemed upset by his reaction. So maybe she really is pregnant with his child, leaves the island and returns to "home", has the baby, and names it Aaron in honor of the Aaron who died or was left behind on the island.

I just watched it 3 times when Kate walks in the room. There's definitely a pair of something on the shelf behind her on her right shoulder, but they cut away so fast its impossible to make out what they are...

The robots do not have 4 toes...
Furthermore, they are stuck on the wall as if they are Aaron's own creations. Boys 2 years old do not create robots as such... My son is 4 and draws them like that. I think that helps to establish Aaron's age...

One interesting thing no one has touched on and I noticed in reviewing this scene right now:
Kate is frightened to pick up Aaron while they hand the wash. This is typical for someone who doesn't have experience with children (I was exactly the same)... but later, the love in her eyes, the tear she sheds and the tender embrace when she picks Aaron out of the crib are sentiments that she would feel only after having given birth to her own child.

I think Aaron is her own child, not the son of Claire. Which goes back to what I said initially: Aaron is Sawyer's son (which means that Kate is lying telling Sawyer that she's not pregnant) and Sawyer is the reason that Jack won't meet the boy...

again, my head is swirling faster than I can explain myself... sorry for my above post. I was trying to say this:

Initially Kate is scared of kids and afraid to pick up Aaron. Claire tells Kate that she too, could have never expected she'd be so good at motherhood, Kate should 'try it out'...

Kate would only be a great mother if she were actually a mother... those 'maternal instincts' kick in when you produce the hormones while giving birth... those are hormones she doesn't seem to have in the early scenes...

I think the Aaron from the last scene is the son of Kate and Sawyer.

jack said that 8 people survived the crash, but we know that they are called the oceanic 6. i have to guess that maybe 2 people didn't survive the resuce, otherwise why not say that there were only 6 crash survivors. if claire got hurt during the rescue and jack couldnt save her...then he gets home and finds out he's her brother...that could cause alot of guilt.

can kate REALLY be so dense as to want to leave the island after miles tells her everything she's wanted for back home? isn't that why she wanted to talk to miles, to find out what her situation was? if so, and he tells her everything she doesn't want to hear, then why would she still want to go home? what would even be the point of asking miles if she had her mind made up to leave? especially if she could live on the island with sawyer in their cute little houses. the only reason she could still want to leave is because she's pregnant and doesn't want to die giving birth. i also got the feeling that when she told sawyer she wasn't pregnant, she only wanted to see his reaction. when he was relieved, she saw no point in telling him the truth.

I like LostinTexas' theory on the Kate's baby scenario...makes sense... but here's something I don't understand. Why is Kate insistant that Jack see Aaron? If I was involved in a love triangle, and had one of the guys baby, I would totally understand why the other guy didn't want to hang out with him. She won't even have coffee with Jack until he can come see Aaron?? Makes no sense.

What if the baby is not Clair's Aaron. What if Kate was pregnant with Sawyers baby and Clair and Aaron died before Kate left the Island and Kate named her baby in honor of Clair's Aaron. As we all know, things are not always as simple as they first appear.

Why, oh why would Miles travel back in time to the Island to try to get 3.2 Million dollars from Ben??? If the freighter/Dharma people have access to a time machine they could get all them money they wanted any time they wanted it. Makes no sense to me. Maybe Miles and Ben were talking in some kind of code in front of Kate and only the 3.2 means something to the two of them.

The best parts of this episode was Sawyer in his boxers and Lock's bad-ass confrontation with Miles and calmly sticking a granade in his mouth and pulling the pin. Other than that, just another string of unanswered questions to add to the already overly long list.

BUT, why did she need to ask Miles if he knew who she was? Kate spent all that time with Frank and Daniel too. I don't blame her for not asking Daniel anything, but Frank had the manifest memorized! If anyone knew about her, it should be him. Plus, she had spent time with Miles too, and barely said anything to him. Why all of a sudden is Kate demanding answers from him?

Okay, the time travel thing, I don't think anyone is jumping back and forth through years and what not. The only difference is the 31 minutes. The aging/not aging thing (like Richard) just depends on how long they spend on the island/"real world"

ok.. I think times passes differently outside the island like maybe every month on the island is a year off the island, which would explain Kate's mom saying the dr gave her 6 months 4 years ago (around the time the plane crashed?), also would explain Aaron being 3 or 4 years old, maybe. Maybe this would explain the helicopter not making it to the boat yet, its still on the way and it may take a few days?
About AAron looking like something was wrong with him, I saw that too, but then at a different angle he looked completly normal, I think that was a trick from the writers just to get speculation flying.

I also think that everyone else except the Oceanic 6 are still on the island because the flashforward that showed Syiad with Ben and Ben fixing his gun shotwound and Ben saying something like you want to protect your friends or something to that effect, I believe someone, maybe who ever is on the boat let the 6 go for some reason maybe to get money or some other crazy reason but kept the others on the island as sort of colleradal. And maybe either Kate smuggled Aaron out on Claires request or asked the bad guys if she could take him because he was a baby. So in turn she would have to say he was hers to save Claire, but I don't know how to explain why he's calling her Mommy.
Maybe they all had to promise to say that everyone else died or they would kill them.
Would this explain why the flashfoward many episodes ago where Jack is contacting Kate and Hurley telling them they need to go back -to rescue the others?

Just a thought.

Just my two cents - I just had a thought... What if time on the island isn't just altered but it STANDS STILL?? Now, I might be completely off base here and/or this may have already been discussed elsewhere, but wouldn't that explain the fact that women aren't able to have a viable pregnancy? Also, it would explain why Rose wouldn't die of cancer. Not because the island 'cures' it but because it just doesn't grow.

Has somebody said this already? If Jack and Claire share a father and that father is Jacob (or seems to be), is it possible that Aaron has some sort of mystical powers passed to him through the island?

They make such a big deal about pregnant women and child birth, is it possible also that there is something strange and special about any baby born on-island.

Maybe the reason Kate didn’t want her mom to see Aaron was that there something supernatural about him.

I agree with anonymous..why was Kate so desperate to speak with Miles? Maybe because he was the only one of the "rescuers" available for her to talk to without going back to the beach. I too thought maybe Kate was lying...but she could have been just mad at Sawyer for being such a moron. And ohhhh he did look good in those boxers...I can't breathe.

Ok, if this is Claire's Aaron, I just don't buy that they are counting him as one of the Oceanic 6. I know the previews for last night's episode said another will be revealed, but I think they were talking about Kate. I know we already knew she made it off the island, but this is the first ff of her since we have learned there is an "Oceanic 6". Either way, I kinda felt cheated, I kept waiting for someone from the island to walk into the courtroom (other than Jack).

LiT - I also think this is Kate's son. Maybe something bad did happen to Claire and Aaron and Kate named her son Aaron in honor of Claire's Aaron. I think it's just a way of confusing us also. I mean that seems to be what everyone is talking about. By naming the child Aaron we totally buy the fact that it's Claire's son and therefore must be the next member of the Oceanic 6. But, I think there is more to the story.

Ok maybe the frieghter people aren't the ones who will get them off the island. Maybe Walt and Micheal find help and that's how they get off. Maybe then something happens to Micheal and Walt and since the real rescuers already knew about them, they couldn't lie about their deaths like they did they other. That would make the 8, the 6 then Micheal and Walt. Does that make sense? I'm probably just pulling at straws, but you never know with Lost.
Also I read a few people say that Aaron is one of the 6, but I really don't think he is. If that really is Claire's Aaron, because he was born on the island after the crash and was not technichally a passenger with a ticket, he could not be one of the 6.

Sorry I didn't read over that, I see I had a few spelling error.

I just went back and noticed that the Volvo was in the driveway and as Kate was going up the stairs there is a huge portrait of a person (Kate?) standing in a beach looking out into the sunset. Am I seeing things? Can someone verify?

I also think there is something wrong with Aaron, there is no CLEAR shot of his face, but it does look like there is something wrong.

I'm voting on Aaron being Sawyers. Just a hunch.

MELODY: I liked your theory on the Oceanic 6 being on the plane together in order to get back to the island. Its good! The DA was hell bent on making sure she does leave California. Is she with Dharma?

I meant..."she does NOT leave California".

I just wanted to say that I love reading this site. This is the highlight to my Friday! Daniel's blow by blow and everyone's comments make me go back and watch the episode again. Thanks everyone!

I thought the DA looked very familiar too, but maybe it was just from another TV show because she isn't credited for any other episode.

Hey DANIEL!

How about some screencaps of Sawyer!!??

Is there something wrong with me? I actually liked this episode, granted I just watched it this morning and could still be half asleep, but was it THAT bad?

I have to go with the Jack is Aaron's uncle and it's part of his father thing. Or that Jack slept with Claire in the end and Aaron reminds him of screwing his sister. No?

Grenade in the mouth. AMAZING. I love Locke and think everyone should happily call them their Dictator.

The smoke was obviously created mechanically or with a projector... and Ben would have gotten away with it if it weren't for those meddling kids.

LIT and sarah:

I totally agree with Aaron being Kate's biological child. It has to be Sawyer's baby. Kate knew she had to leave the island to have him...she just wanted Sawyer to want the baby also and jump to leave the island for the 3 of them. It would just be to easy for Kate to be raising Claire's son. LOST is never simple or easy...they never take a straightforward path to something like this! There is way too much to find out yet before the show ends.

Lost in Texas, I just had to comment on your "maternal instincts only kick in when a woman gives birth" nonsense. What about women who adopt? They may have never given birth --do they not have the "mothering instinct??"

I'm just sayin'...

Brad: LOL!! That was very funny!

Did anyone catch the name of the book that Lock put on Ben's breakfast tray? I forgot to tape the episode.....dang!!!

I thought the DA looked very familiar too, but maybe it was just from another TV show because she isn't credited for any other episode.

Posted by: sarah badara | February 22, 2008 09:51 AM

I also thought she looked familiar and then I realized I remembered her from 'Crossing Jordan' where she also played a lawyer type. She wasn't a major character... she dated Garrett for awhile and became pregnant by another man. Could that be where you remember her from?

I think my last post didn't 'post'. Did anyone think that when Kate asked Miles if he knew her that he was going to pull out his psychic abilities?

Seemed odd to ask Miles of all people, after all, Kate had been with Frank and Dan also. Why ask Miles? Might mean nothing, but for a minute I thought he was going to pull out the voodoo-