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"So because last week's 'Lost' was so good, does that automatically mean that this week's has to suck?"

That was the IM I got from my friend Chris on Thursday morning and now I have the fear of God in me. Is it possible? Can "Lost" be that good last week and this week too? One can only hope ...

For all you "Lost" Diary newbies, here's how it goes: I gather with a group of friends watching "Lost," writing what happens on the show as it happens, and throwing in my two cents along the way. I am watching tonight's episode of "Lost" alone as Ari and Lauren are in Las Vegas. How is it I get emails from total strangers wanting to watch "Lost" with me and my own friends bail on my constantly? Let's roll:

9:00 -- Time for my new favorite game: flashback or flashforward? Now, I know all we have had so far this season are flashforwards, but I don't think we're done with flashbacks just yet -- at least I hope. I'm going flashback, but I know I'm probably wrong.

9:01 -- Hang on a sec, isn't Tom dead? Has to be a flashback.

9:02 -- "Welcome to the island." -- Harper to Juliet. Winner!!!

9:03 -- "We want you to feel at home." Ben to Juliet. As always, even the most gracious words sound ultra-creepy when Ben says them.

9:04 -- Faraday and Charlotte have gone missing, and on cue it begins raining, the island starts whispering and Harper appears out of nowhere. I'm assuming she's real, but you never know with "Lost."

9:07 -- Ok, so Faraday and Charlotte are headed to the tempest (whatever that is) to release the gas and kill everyone -- or at least that's what Ben thinks.

9:08 -- "Ben is exactly where he wants to be." -- Harper. Didn't Miles say the same thing when Kate had him tied up in that shed?

9:09 -- Under the cover of whispers (yes, I said whispers), Harper disappears. Seriously, WTF?!!?!??

9:10 -- All our favorite dead Others are back this week. Good times.

9:11 -- Apparently Harper is Goodwin's wife. Now, we know Harper is still alive and we know Goodwin and Juliet got it on -- so I guess that means Juliet is a slut.

9:12 -- Once again, Jack asks someone a really, REALLY important question -- but when they don't answer, he just let's it go. Jack might be a great doctor, but he'd make a shitty cop.

9:13 -- Based on their conversation, it sure seems like Faraday and Charlotte are planning on doing what Ben thinks they are planning on doing. Ben's never really wrong.

9:17 -- Kate, for a change, is not acting like an idiot and asking all the right questions.

9:18 -- Wait, scratch that.

9:19 -- "It's very stressful being an Other, Jack." -- Juliet

9:20 -- Goodwin busts in on Ben and Juliet with the offer of an egg salad sandwich -- that sly dog!

9:21 -- Harper knows Juliet has been sleeping with her husband and apparently Harper is afraid of what Ben would do. And did you catch Harper's "You look just like her comment"? Has to be Annie, right?

9:22 -- Claire wants to interrogate Miles to find out why he and his crew are really on the island -- and she's actually making sense, which confuses me. Charlie dying has done wonders for her.

9:23 -- "Don't you want to know whose boat it is?" -- Claire

9:24 -- Ben and Locke are throwing out so many good quotes, I can't even keep up.

9:26 -- Another fantastic Ben/Locke scene. First off, why doesn't Locke see that Ben is right? They are on the same side in this. And secondly, the man the freighter people work for has to be Penny's dad, right?

9:30 -- Juliet in a bikini. Not bad. Not bad at all.

9:31 -- "What's Ben gonna do?" -- Goodwin. Hmmm, something tells me we are about to find out.

9:32 -- Apparently what he can do is send Goodwin off to die.

9:33 -- Jack and Juliet find Kate passed out in the bushes -- and Juliet uses that as an opportunity to leave Jack behind.

9:34 -- I need silence please -- Locke and Ben scene, Locke and Ben scene, Locke and Ben scene!!!

9:35 -- "I taped over the game." -- Ben. Has the playing of any tape on "Lost" ever not been completely awesome? I am downright giddy right now.

9:36 -- Ladies and gentlemen, Charles Widmore.

9:37 -- "If 5,000 people came out to see a piece of mold, how many people do you think would come here to see you?" -- Ben to Locke

9:38 -- Ben just told Locke that the Widmore file is "the last bargaining chip" he has left. Now that I don't believe.

9:39 -- Last chance -- who is Ben's man on the boat?

9:43 -- Hold the phone -- Jack just got a straight answer out of Kate!!! First time for everything.

9:44 -- Out of all the creepy things Ben has said and done, where does cooking a ham rank? It's got to be up there.

9:45 -- Zach and Emma are on the list, apparently. I love all the "list" talk, but when do we actually get to find out something about it?

9:46 -- WARNING: MANUAL ENTRY OVERRIDE DENIED

9:52 -- Faraday is trying to say that he's trying to make the gas inert. He'd be more convincing if he weren't wearing a GAS MASK!!!

9:52 -- Cat fight.

9:54 -- Ok, so Faraday succeeded in making the gas inert so that Ben couldn't use it against them later. I'm having some problem figuring out what to make of all this.

9:56 -- Ben couldn't just tell Juliet that Goodwin was dead, he had to show her his rotting, decaying corpse.

9:57 -- "How could you possibly not understand that you're mine?" -- Ben to Juliet. That's not creepy, it's just kinda sad (with a touch of crazy thrown in).

9:59 -- Jack and Juliet finally kiss. I don't have Lauren hear to gauge the female reaction, but let me try. "That slut!"

10:00 -- "See you guys at dinner." -- Ben

"So because last week's 'Lost' was so good, does that automatically mean that this week's has to suck?"

Eh, guess so.

Look I can't flat out declare this episode a clunker, but it really did only one thing for me and that's question my undying love for Ben. I know he wants to protect the island at all costs, but I am starting to doubt how pure his intentions really are. Is he really all about the island -- or is he all about himself?

The rest of this episode (I think we all suspected the freighter was Widmore's) I could have done without. I give it a C+. The Ben/Locke scenes were great and Juliet in a bikini did not disappoint. Hey, I'm still a guy here!

Here's my question to you this week: Even though "Lost" has cut its season down to 16 eps (and even less after the strike) we're still getting dud episodes. Is "Lost" better served with even fewer eps, say 12? Works for HBO, Showtime and FX. Just a thought.

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Not a great episode. Found myself not even paying attention at certain points of the show.

Hi guys! OK, before I comment on last night's episode, I just want to say Hello to all my peeps who comment on The Lost Diary, like Jannelle, Ana (the original), bandirun, cathead, and all my other peeps - you know who you are! ;-)

OK, a few things:
1) Why would Juliet be in therapy sesssions before she even was shown to her house? Didn't anyone else find the timing of that odd?
2) Goodwin is a hot piece of man lovin'.
3) Guys, I TOTALLY look like Juliet. I wonder if Ben has a crush on me too!
4) I hate to ruin this for everyone, but it is apparent to me that it is Michael on the boat. This may be the worst Lost suspense of all time

Have a wonderful Friday guys!
LIT

What initiated the gas release panic?... who pressed the button in the first place?

Seemed like a fine episode to me... more situation and character development. I hate when viewers come on here and say an episode sucked, because I have not yet come away with that opinion of ANY of them.

Okay, can someone clear this up for me. My boyfriend and I are arguing over this. I think, but don't exactly remember, that we knew Juliet and Goodwin were sleeping with each other right? But my boyfriend doesn't remember ever knowing that. Did we find that out in a previous flashback of one of the others or am i losing it?

OK this is interesting... I did not post that post above... I know exactly who's posting as me... but just FYI, thats not me...

Jaclyn, you are right and your boyfriend is dead wrong. They did show Juliet and Goodwin sleeping with each other in an episode last year.

Also, once again, LOST IN TEXAS makes me want to puke.

I think you are a little too jaded by INCREDIBLE episodes to see that this episode wasn't horrible. It revealed a lot and at the same time presented more questions. Isn't that what an episode of LOST is supposed to do? Just because we were spoiled last week, doesn't mean this week was a bad episode.
On that note, I still think there is something fishy about Juliet and can I just say... that was the worst kiss ever! Talk about no chemistry. Oh, and Juliet- she is a homewrecker. Just had to say it. But at the same time she could kick my ass any day. So I will also say she is quite pretty.
Kate didn't drive me crazy- I actually liked her. And Claire suprised me, she may prove to be important after all.
I can't complain, I got to see Sawyer today- not for that long, but at least I got to see him once.
I give it an A.

Real LIT:

You don't think the spy on the boat is Michael, do you? Seems way too obvious.

Jaclyn, We did know they were sleeping together.

I liked this episode. It gave some more information on what was going on just prior to the plane crashing. But what ticks me off the most are the COMMERCIALS!!! 5 minutes of Lost for 4 minutes of COMMERCIALS. UGH. I was about ready to call NBC to complain. Lost is the best.

Brad,
Michael being on the boat does seem to obvious, but look at the episodes lately, ya know! Another idea, since ben told lock to sit down, the spy might be someone we thought was dead?

This is my last post as the real LIT because I obviously have to change my name...

I don't think the spy is Michael but I don't know... and I don't care.

I liked the episode

And I don't like the fact that people start out attacking me on this blog when its supposed to be about our favorite show. Now you're stealing my identity and using this forum to make fun of me instead of what it was intended for.

not the best......but it's all part of the ride ..... just waiting for the next big loop to come around.. sometimes you you need one that does not give you a headache trying to figure out whats going on.

I may be the odd one out but I liked this episode. I liked finding more out about the relationship between Juliet and Ben. Also the fact that Juliet was having an affair with Goodwin. I was still in Juliet's corner on that one until it was obvious from the ocean scene that she continued to see Goodwin after his wife warned her not too. Have to go along with the whole slut thing. LOL I'm beginning to have second thoughts about Ben. Maybe not as much evil as a sad character that thinks he is doing the right thing? I'm thinking back to the flash forward of Sayid working for Ben as a hit man. Could they be killing all those that are/were working for Widmore?

I have to disagree that this episode sucked. I really didn't think so. Obviously it will be hard to beat last week, but I don't think there are any real duds in this show. I need to go back and watch again, but I'm certain that the telling of Juliet's story is very important and I want to make sure I didn't miss anything vital.

When Ben gave that explanation to Locke about Widmore looking for the island, I was totally skeptical - obviously, that is part of it, but please, just finding it to make money? I don't think so, he already has enough money to waste that much time and energy looking for the island just for that reason.

Also - that fact that we'll probably see Michael on the boat next week just makes me MORE convinced that he's NOT Ben's man on the boat because it's too obvious. We all know that Lost doesn't just give things away willy-nilly. I'm not saying that I don't think Michael is ON the boat, but that doesn't mean he's Ben's man. How would they have been communicating with one another? And, why would Ben have told Locke to sit down to hear that? Michael left the island on a boat traveling on specific coordinates given to him by Ben... it wouldn't be a shocker to hear that Ben had sent Michael to the boat. I could take that info standing up.

Heather- LOST is on ABC not NBC

I'd have to say my favorite part was at the end when Ben is walking back to his house and Sawyer asks "What the hell are you doing here?" And Ben smirks "See you guys at dinner." His facial expression was just so aggravatingly... Ben! lol

I thought it was okay to have a bit of a mellow episode... I was starting to get heart palpitations every week! :D

Hey Daniel...

I have to agree with you about last night's show. It had some really good parts but had some really bad parts too. It really didn't tell anything I didn't already know or guessed! I still think the man on the boat is Michael.

Anyway to answer your questions, I like 16 weeks of LOST because if it was only twelve weeks that would be a whole month nother with out it. I don't mind the duds because I know great things are about to happen. Just my opinion, but I hear where your coming from.

Thanks for another great week of Lost Diary...Daniel you're the BEST!!

Aliah, good call. The kiss was more compassion than passion - blah. I still don't think that Kate was completely honest with Jack. I think she's pregnant and stayed b/c she wanted to gauge Sawyer's reaction. Also, I think Harper was an island manifestation, not the real Harper. Can Ben communicate telepathically with the rest of the Others, or is it the island communicating telepathically with Ben/Others?

I thought it was a good episode. Was that Desmond getting roughed up on the video with mr. widmore? I still think sayid is the man on the boat...michael is too stupid, and desmond has the sickness.

I think that Goodwin's wife must be dead...because she appeared much like Shannon, Jack,s dad, the cabin, etc.

Jack is a wimp anymore....he is lucky he is good looking. Juliet is interesting - still haven't decided if she is good or bad.

all in all....the episode answered alot of questions and opened some new ones.

Right, sorry, ABC not NBC. See I am still frustrated at all the commercials I cannot even type. :-)

Also, WHY every time an other appears in the jungle it is raining and you here whispers?? It freaks me out, but I love it!!!

"How could you possibly not understand that you're mine?"

...can't believe you didn't mention the quick follow-up line from Ben,

"take as long as you need."

Hilarious!

I actually liked this episode. I know I'm in a very small minority, but I really didn't like the Constant. Bash away if you wish...but just my opinion.

Oh, just remembered one other thing. If you watched the previews for next weeks episode did you see Claire jump into the ocean with Aaron? Does Claire drown and that is how Kate ends up with him? Or does Claire loose her grip on him, Kate grabs him but can't get to Claire before someone else does? Just wondering....

I'm so bored of people being jerks on this blog. There are so many good posts and I love reading them all, but the stupid fighting and mocking is getting so old. Coolie - if you don't like LIT's posts then skip over them and get over yourself. I disagree with at least 50% of the ideas people have, but that's why there is a blog like this so people can post their ideas and then think about what others have said whether they agree or disagree. This is a blog talking about a TV show we all like. We're not writing foreign policy so disagreements aren't the end of the world and there is no need to get snotty about it. Please, everyone who feels the need to nit pick and argue - grow up!

I just started reading this blog last week, and I love it! Love Daniel's "Lost Diary".
I have to agree that this episode is just mediocre. We were spoiled last week, definitely. I could have done without this episode, only because it wasn't that important. Question: Does anyone have any thoughts on who the guy was that was getting smacked around by Charles Widmore? My first thought was Desmond, but it could be Sayid too.
I think next week's episode will be better. I saw on E! News that Sun & Jin will be having their flashbacks (or forwards) next week and that we will know who the final Oceanic 6 are.

Too much drama, mama!

This week was bad- no Desmond.

I am still watching last week's episode. If anything happens to me, Desmond Hume will be MY cONSTanT!

ME Too,

Thanks for mentioning that - I wasn't sure who it was who jumped into the ocean. Next week looks like it'll be a doozey, and I'm glad we'll see a bit more about what happens with Sun and Jin!

I'm sure NBC would have loved to hear from you.

Even when episodes aren't totally mind blowing, I think all the info we get is very important.

Just a thought. We need to find a picture of Ben's mom and Annie. I am not quite sure which one juliet looks like!!!

"You look just like her"...Annie or Ben's mom? I stated last week that I thought Juliette could be Annie and no one commented. Thanks Daniel, at least I know I'm not the only one thinking on those lines. And Ben taking Juliette to see her dead lover...priceless!

For a while I thought that the psychiatrist was Annie, because I thought she was referring to herself by her last name, but then I looked on Lostpedia and saw that it was her first name.

I guess that Juliet does look a lot like Ben's mom, but we don't know what Annie looks like when she's grown up.

Calling NBC probably wouldn't help since the show is on ABC!

Is Penny Annie?

Penny and Juliet look sorta alike, could Annie have been spared from the Purge and been adopted by Widmore, like Ben did with Alex?

I think you got the title wrong... isn't it supposed to be "The Other Woman?"

Also, I think the time frame of juliet's flashback was interesting, because her last flashback covered some of the same ground. I don't think they'd done that before... the part when the plane crashed was in her last one. I want to go back and watch that episode to see if Harper walks up in the background when Ben sends Goodwin away.

Thank you Brad!! I was wondering why no one mentioned that. I was laughing and my friends got angry. I love Ben!

Also - (sorry, I'm posting in between answering phones so I keep losing my train of thought!)- my friend had a crazy idea that maybe Ben has something to do with pregnant women dying since his mother died in childbirth. I'm sure this idea's been mentioned by people at some point, but I thought it was pretty interesting.

Ben could be waging war against widmore to get Annie, like he did with Goodwin and now Jack

The person who jumps into the water in the preview isn't Claire. I thought it was so I watched it in slow motion about 96 times, definitely not her with Aaron. It's a woman (not sure who) who is shackled. I just couldn't figure out who it could be but she wasn't holding a baby for sure & looked nothing like Claire when you freeze frame it in an obsessive manner ;)

hey this is my 1st time posting & I hav a few questions.
1. Ben sez @ 1 point that if his people really wanted him they would've stormed this camp a long time ago. Where r Ben's people (the Others)? did they all die before Jack got to the radio tower?

2. Last season (or mabye the season prior) the Losties learn that the Others live on a separate island. is this were Locke is now? how did they get there?

3. Is Harper (or her manifestation) the Smoke Monster?

4. How does Ben communicate w/the outside while Lock had him, ..., well, locked up?

Any help on those would be very much appreciated.

i liked this episode. not so mind boggling, and that was nice for a change. it's important to see the past of the characters so that we will understand future stuff. the funniest line i thought was when locke gave been his meal and ben said "rabbit? this didnt happen to have a number on it did it?" LOL....so nonchalantly!

I figured the chick in the preview is shackled with weight to get her down to the lookng glass station fast like Desmond did?

Kruxoli --

Where are the Others? - that's a good question! The last we saw them they were at the temporary camp they set up - the place they asked Locke to kill his dad... I think they were going to move from there, but we haven't seen them first. I believe they are with Richard Alpert who I hope we see soon!

As far as the separate island goes, I believe that just the Hydra (that's the zoo one right?) is on that island - the place they were keeping Jack, Kate, and Sawyer, not their little town, which I'm pretty sure is on the main island.

Tracy,
Is Penny Annie?

That is definitely one to think about. It would certainly explain the connection to Widmore and the island. Another idea to ponder!

All the episodes have some little bit of information we need. So they are all pretty good. The whole Jack and Juliet thing is yuck. I don't think it is Michael that is the inside man on the boat. I'm gonna have to go with Boone. That would really freak Locke out. He really cared about Boone.
Just a thought.

LIT-I've decided Coolio is in love with you. You know, in a 2nd Grade pulling on your pigtails sort of way. ;-)

I can't say I loved or hated this episode, but I knew going into it that it couldn't possibly be as mind-blowing as last week's. I do like learning more about Juliet, but I find the more I learn about her, the more I hate her. And Ben's little "you're MINE" line was creepy beyond all reason. After that I think Juliet's chances of getting off the island are pretty slim, at least as long as Ben is alive.

Oh, and Daniel..the female reaction (or at least mine) to the Jack/Juliet kiss was something like "NOOOOOOOOOO....I HATE that homewrecking b*tch"!!

Hey everyone! I've been watching since the 1st epi, and I'm completely addicited!! I have a new theory that no one has said. I have a strange feeling Ben is about to tell Locke that it's LOCKE himself on the boat as his man. It will be one of his time travel tricks. I could totally see Locke partnering up with Ben. He's obviously facinated with the guy & wants to have the leadership role Ben once had over the Others. What do you guys think??

i think one of the really cool things we found out is why widmore wants to get to the island....to exploit it!! i bet his vision is making the island some sort of retirement place for rich folks to come to and get better. that and the reason why daniel and charlotte started the gas sequence to render it inert was to make the island safe for people to come to...i think ben really does have the island's interest at heart. imagine if the island's healing powers are like that movie cacoon where it was cool if a couple of people swam in the water and got better but when everyone from that retirement home went it sucked the power out of the water. bad analogy but hopefully you get what i mean.

Boone! wow. That would be cool. (but i still think Ben is his own man on the boat -- and you all can make fun of me if i'm wrong!)

I found this. Though it was very interesting as everything associated with lost has a background!!

The Tempest: The name of the DHARMA station comes from the play written by William Shakespeare, which was first published in 1623. It tells the story of the sorcerer Prospero and his daughter Miranda, who are stranded on a mysterious desert island that has mystical properties. Prospero raises a storm, or tempest, which causes a passing ship containing his enemies to run aground. Using magic, spirits and a man-beast creature named Caliban, he separates and manipulate the survivors of the wreck for his own purposes. The play ends with Prospero restored to his former glory

Not a great episode. I too found myself not paying attention at times. To answer Daniel, even bad LOST is good LOST, so the more episodes for me, the better, even if they suck like this one. Some interesting things that I found though:

1. Look at Harper's framed certificates in her office. The one on the right has a Hanso logo on it at the bottom, left hand side. It says Hanso and has a Yin/Yang symbol. Also has Harper's name at the top. Did she work for Hanso/Dharma or did she assume the identity of the real Harper who used to work for Dharma? Is she an island original or actually Harper?

2. I'm not sure how Ben's ham would have dried out. The oven wasn't even on! I don't think it was even plugged in!!! Ha!

3. In the preview for next week, it looks like Sayid is holding a note written in block letters, in very childish or uneducated handwriting. It says "DON'T TRUST THE CAPTAIN" or something like that.

4. Kate - really, turn your back on them. OK, that was stupid writing right there.

5. Even more funny that the Scooby Doo line was Ben at the end last night. "See you guys at dinner." F-ing hilarious!

6. I still want to know the significance of the "list" that included certain people (mostly kids) from the crash. Really, just who came up with this list?

7. Well, the cats finally out of the bag on Charles Widmore. As if everyone hadn't already figured that out already. As far as the guy he was beating, it didn't look like anyone I had seen before. His hair was very curly and kind of springy. Didn't recognize him, either b/c it's insignificant, or we're not supposed to recognize him. But, someone brought up a great point. Widmore doesn't want the island for financial reasons. That's dumb if Locke believes that. Widmore has plenty of money. He wants it for other reasons.

Later.

interesting fact- The actress who plays Ben's mom is his real-life wife.

I'm a bit worried about Miles. I wonder if he's still in that shack with the grenade in his mouth.

To answer your question, I was pretty upset to hear that there were going to be fewer episodes. A bad episode of Lost is better than most of the shows on tv. I heard on the last podcast that they won't be sacrificing any of the story lines, which was what I was wondering. They'll just be addressing some next season instead of this season.

This is a great site! I'm officially switching from TMZ to this!

Does anyone think that Ben's motives against Widmore might not have to do with saving the island, but with seeking revenge for Annie? When the psych lady said that 'you look just like her' to Juliet, I thought of Penelope Whidmore. Could she be Annie? She's the only one alive that maybe could look like Juliet

When Ben got so possessive about juliette with respect to godwin, I thought that same thing might be going on with whidmore.

also, anyone else catch when charlette said that, 'he's done it before' about gassing everyone... unless someone (annie) escaped the purge, how else would they know about it?

I liked this episode. I think these episodes are necessary. I enjoy when you go back and learn even more about scenes you have already seen several times. I also love the argument i have with myself if Ben is really good or Bad and same with Juliette. I can't wait to see what Ben is up to because he is always up to something.

me too & erin. i paused my tv on that scene and it wasnt claire that jumped into the water...it was some brown haired chick (but not kate either)

Here's a picture of the man captured by Whidmore...

I thought the Ben/Locke scenes were fantastic as usual. The rest of the episode was kind of just meh.

I thought it was incredibly strange and a bit uncomfortable seeing Ben really excited and running around in that dinner scene. It kind of threw me off for a second. And then the way he stomped off after showing Juliet the body. He was like a 5-year old there, which is weird to watch because it's BEN!

To answer the question, I'd say yes and no. The quality of the episodes would get better because there would be no room for bullshit. At the same time, I'm selfish and want lots of episodes just to extend the Lost experience.

That said, I have high hopes for next week. I'm curious to know who the last of the Oceanic Six is.

Okay, well everyone knows I like Juliet. I am a fan of her. While you guys might call her a homewrecker, I think she felt the typical alone in a strange place and Goodwin came to her. It takes two to tango people...you can't dislike Juliet and like Goodwin. Also, I got bad vibes from Harper anyway. She seems kinda(?) good looking and she was a doctor and now that Juliet, the new hot doctor is there, she has a little bit of jealousy before Juliet starts sleeping with her husband? PS Who does she look like????????????? (referring to Harper's comment)

Harper - she came off well, like a biatch. Didn't like her from the moment she started talking. I think that she is dead. I have a feeling she might have gotten pregnant (?) but then again Goodwin said he was sleeping on the couch for a year and obviously Harper knew the women were dying...

On to Jack - I still think his thoughts are cloudy because he might have that I'm going to go home thing going on. I think in the FF he might be all distraught because he left Juliet along with the other Losties? He likes her and there's no denying that. But I can't figure out what to make of him and Kate in FF's.

Ben is good...scary good. That's all I have to say about that.

Mr. Widmore...I honestly did not see that coming. Who was getting beat up? Is that important?

Michael is the man on the boat. I have tried a million times to think how they would bring him back into the show, but that is the only way. I think so many people have figured it out that the writers/producers aren't really hiding it too much.

Claire - it was not her jumping off the boat. I watched it in slowmo and its some woman wrapped up in heavy chains and Desmond goes running after her. Good for her questioning Locke...she's not as dumb as the

Kate - still hate her. I wonder how she committed all these crimes because she is stupid.

Charlotte - still hate her.

That's all (alot - sorry) for now. I liked the episode because it told me why Charlotte is the way she is and I am glad her and Jack has kissy kissy face time. Haha. But I only have one question and I know those who know me know who I'm looking for...

Sun's dad must have something to with Widmore and the frieghter.
He was some crazy Korean mafia type. I am sure they are all connected.

I posted right after the episode ended under the Q&A of last week's episode but I was SO disappointed that I'll post it again.

Terrible episode! Juliet is NOT an interesting character at all. Mostly everything they showed we already knew or could have guessed.

She's a slut and Jack is so fickle I want to slap him.

I don't trust ANYthing Ben says and I don't get why Locke does.

I'm convinced it's Sayid that's the "man on the boat".

I hate when Kate gets all wannabe tough woman with the gun. It just doesnt suit her.

Juliets face is annoying.

I gave this episode last night a C- and I'm sticking to it! blah!

Larry- I agree, I want to know more about "the list." On top of that, I want to know why the rest of the "others" went along with the notion that it is ok to kidnap the people from the plane? I just find it odd that these people blindly follow Ben and Jacob... but Ben does have a way of manipulating people.
Also, I agree that the reasons Ben gave for why Widmore wants access to the island are pure BS. He doesn't need anymore money- there is another reason. Oh, and I agree with Daniel, I do not believe for a second that Ben just used his last bargoning chip.

QUESTION ON OCEANIC 6

QUESTION ON OCEANIC 6

QUESTION ON OCEANIC 6


4 of the Oceanic 6 have been revealed so far (Jack, Kate, Hurley and Sayid).

So, who's the other two?

last night i was trying to figure out how ben stays in contact with his people. he obviously knows whats going on outside of his cell & i think its pretty doubtful that he has some sort of walkie-talkie or locke would have noticed. so how does he do it. in my mind its clear that dharma was trying to figure out the side effects of traveling to & from the island & how to manipulate it to their advantage. well if thats true then ben must know how to as well. i started wondering 2 different scenarios. 1 i dont think desmond's experience last week was so much "time traveling" as an out of body experience. maybe ben can somehow meditate or move his mind to himself in a different point in time when he's with his people again. but that doesnt explain everything. that led me to something else. 2 remember in the beginning when everyone was talking about twins because of the dr. in the video identifying himself by 2 different names when it was the same actor. maybe its not twins but clones, and ben has a clone ben that is with his people at the temple. sounds stupid this morning but i was pretty buzzed last night so i might'a gone a little wild on that one.

OOOOOO - I like the clone idea buttercup!

Flycj.....
Thanks for the still photo of the captured guy that Widmore slapped around. That is definitely not Desmond or Sayid.....Who the heck is that??!!

ps when i said charlotte is the way she is i meant juliet and that claire isnt as dumb ad the writers made her to seem

"9:26 -- Another fantastic Ben/Locke scene. First off, why doesn't Locke see that Ben is right? They are on the same side in this. And secondly, the man the freighter people work for has to be Penny's dad, right?"

How did you know it was Penny's dad?

My money is on Sun being one of the O6. I bet we find that out next week, since Juliette made a huge deal in the preview about her needing to get off of the island within a three week period, or else she's going to die. I'm saying Sun. I've also been saying since Day 1 that Michael is the man on the boat. But, the way Ben made it sound like it would be a really big deal for Locke, I'm just not sure right now.

BTW, after looking at that picture of Ben's mom, Juliette does look like her. It could explain his obsession a little. Also, until I see an episode with more Annie, I'm not going to care anything more about her. I'm tired of her name!!!

Could anyone make out what the whispers were saying in the Jungle?

Someone help me...I don't remember this Annie kid at all.

I liked this episode for one reason: It answered everything I need to know about Juliet so we can just stick her in the background and get her out of the way. Next week's episode is called Ji Yeon, so I'm hoping it will do the same for Sun & Jin.

SB- ok. Juliet is definitelly not the only one to blame for the affair and I thought Harper was a biatch too. BUT Juliet still slept with her husband. Also, that kis with Jack and Juliet was really pathetic. No passion, nothing. I am not a fan of those two, but if you are gonna kiss... give us something to talk about. And I completely agree about Claire, she is the only one who brought up a very valid point- WHOSE BOAT IS IT??? Locke is blinded by power and cannot see things that are right in front of his face. Idiot. Oh, and it was priceless at the end... Ben is so creepy I love it.

Larry, I think the whispers were saying save the island, but I am not 100% sure.

Laura, Annie is ben's childhood friend before the gas killed off everyone. We don't know where she is.

Yah, how did everyone figure out that it was Mr. Widmore's boat. I mean he seemed so willing to give Desmond Penn's address like he knew what was going on. I think convincing Desmond to do a race around the world or whatever was a plan, but I just couldn't find how everone connected that to Christiane I being Mr. Widmores boat...

Thanks Aliah. I'll have to fast foward to that point and turn the volume up this weekend. I don't think I'll be watching the whole episode again!

people with money always want more money...its like a drug. so i dont think we can say for certain that he's not into the island for money. it would be cool tho, if he had some sort of terminal illness & wanted to fix himself, but wouldnt that mean he would have to stay on the island forever?

Buttercup,

You're right. I just rewound and watched it again too. Trying to play with our minds. What else is new?? The woman jumping is holding onto large chains, cradled like a baby, that appear to be the kind used for an anchor. This woman had long brown curly hair so I thought it might be Kate. Rewound again and doesn't appear to be Kate either. I don't reconize her. Also, Desmond is seen running toward the end of the ship as though he is trying to stop her from jumping. BUT, this could just be the way the preview clips were put together.

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Which members of the Oceanic 6 have been revealed? I'd appreciate some feedback.

Even though this episode wasn't as INTENSE as last week's, I thoroughly enjoyed it because it was downright FUNNY.
More one-liners in one episode than ever before!

And I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought Jack and Juliet's kiss was the least passionate kiss of all time. It makes me wonder how things will continue to develop...

I think Mr. Widmore would be the only one who would have knowledge about Penny's search for Desmond and that he would be the only one to know to block her calls... that is why I thought it was Widmore's boat.

I also think the boat race was a set-up for Desmond and I think that Libby has something to do with that set-up. I am not sure how yet, but somehow she is connected with the conspiracy.

The girl that jumps hasn't been seen before, I assume she's Regina that we've heard of on the boat?

Widmore was the major bankroll for darma, ben killed his friends and co workers, michael is on the boat becouse ben made the deal and set him free with walt, thats why walt showed up to locke in the grave after he was shot, michael and walt are playing both sides.

I thought Minkowski told Des and Sayid that they had been sent by Whidmore and waited offshore for a long time? I thought that was how we knew it was Whidmore's boat

didn't minkowski say that penny had been calling the boat and that it was whidmore's boat?

Widmore's name had not been associated with the boat before last night's episode. Minkowski never mentioned a name.

I think Juliet looks like Ben's mom and Ben certainly has some deep-seated issues surrounding his mother.

I don't think Annie is Penny because wouldn't that mean Mr Widmore knew where the island was? Also, would Penny have developed such a prominent accent if she had spent her childhood on the island instead of in the UK?

Does anyone think there's something about the water on this island? Locke is often purposely going out into the rain and usually closes his eyes and smiles as if the rain is maybe cleansing him or somehow overly refreshing. Plus, when Charlotte crashes and releases herself from the parachute, she seems mighty happy to be splashing around in the water she lands in. You could also make a stretch and say they are often showing people getting water from streams, etc. but then that is also just something that would commonly be done.

I like the clone idea...must ponder...

I actually loved Ben this episode. Honestly I think it gave us a bit more straightforward insight into his intentions. He wants to do what is best for the island, even if that means killing everyone who comes in contact with it, because he believes the end justifies the means. We know Sayid eventually comes around to his way of thinking, so he can't be totally evil.

And also, we saw an awkward side to Ben's personality that we didn't see before. We know he carried a torch for Annie and he probably never had a real relationship before. I thought Ben was fabulous overall this episode.

As far as the clunkers go, every show is going to have a few. And, really, even the clunkers this season have been better than 95% of the stuff on TV. Gimme my 16 episodes, please.

Can't believe you are all missing the best quote from last nights episode. After locke hand ben some rabbit to eat ben says "this rabbit didn't have a number on it, did it?" This was great, but only makes sense to those of us who have watched the orchid training video. Wonder why he was worried about eating the numbered rabbits?

Man on the boat? Eko. The 3.15 on the staff...connection to the landlocked ship....

It seems every episode I watch (never missed one yet) I always come away with a good chuckle. In Another Woman it had to be Ben busy in the kitchen with the ham. Too much! I am still grinning.
Harper (Andrea Roth) is a great actress, I know her from Rescue Me. My only hope is Kate and her get a cat fight going.........Kate is starting to get on my last nerve.

I don't think we "knew" it was Widmore's boat because of anything that was revealed in a previous episode. But, I know that when I decided it was his boat, I was just trying to figure out who made the most sense. Widmore's the only one I could come up with that really fit the bill. It just seemed obvious to me that he would be after the island. Now, the question is, is he working alone? I've always kind of thought he was working with Sun's father or Dharma/Hanso. But, interesting to note, if he is associated with Dharma/Hanso, he probably would not have had to bid on that Black Rock journal, and more importantly, the Map that Daniel and Charlotte were following last night probably would have been a heck of a lot more detailed. That map looked like it had been drawn by someone with very little island knowledge, as evidenced by all of the "unknown's" written on it. But, did that map seem familiar? At first I thought of Rousseau's maps, but they were more detailed.

Rambling.

how did someone trip the gas to start leaking at the tempest and conveniently Charlote and Daniel show up just in the nick of time and save the day?

I don't believe Charlotte and Daniel about saving them from the gas- maybe just for the time being. Ben's going to gas them all again? (including himself?) Even Alex?

Thats seems improbable (although the inital Purge did too!)

You guys are definitely right that it takes two to tango, and the Goodwin is just as much to blame for the affair...and I can't say I'm a huge fan of Harper. She doesn't seem like the woman you want to cross...so I'm intrigued by the fact that she was "sent" to give Juliet those orders. Were they really from Ben? Is Harper even still alive? Or was it all a hallucination generated by the island? I'm kind of leaning in that direction.

I still don't like Juliet though. In my opinion that woman is always out for her own interests. While that doesn't necessarily make her "evil", I have to question the character of someone who will do ANYTHING for their own benefit. She doesn't care who she lies to, who she hurts, or who she has to betray. It all comes down to what is best for her.

Clones? Numbered Rabbits? Time travel?
GOOD STUFF, GOOD IDEAS, Darma had it going on

On the scenes for next week, they said they are going to reveal the 6th of the Oceania.
I can only figure out four Kate, Jack, Sayid and Hurley. I know there was a funeral in the last years season ender,
Have I missed one?? Ben and Aaron were not on the plane.

Ok, Daniel i have to disagree with you on feeling less in love with Ben, i am warming up to Ben more slowly and last night's episode increased my love for him. I think that Locke's purpose is coming to an end and that Ben completely foreshadowed a revolution, ie. Claire's murmuring about the boat-watch for it. Locke is increasingly becoming Ben's marionette, its so obvious I am surprised people still think of Locke as an autonomous thinker, he is clearly on the defensive and Ben is all offense while in a defensive position. Locke certainly had insight beyong the other losties into the islands power but we are now seeing how that insight is still quite limited, he has no idea what's going on, in my opinion. Maybe he will prove significant and find out soon.

As for Juliette, meh, she dies so she is insignificant to me. Also the non-answering of the seemingly one-dimensional losties, ie. Jack, is reminiscent of Knott's Landing or Dynasty, wish they'd steer away from classic night time soap behaviour.

I have said enough, just wanted to say i love this blog, am new to it but have watched lost since day 1. Thanks for having it.

Does no one remember when Desmond set sail on that boating competition? He was trying to beat Penelope's father ( MR. WHITMORE ) at that race but he had a wreck and washed up on shore of the island and also found Penelope's dead father on the rocks. If Ben knows what's going on, wouldn't he also know that Mr. Whitmore died in that boating race? Am I not remembering this right? Am I wrong?

they are probably going to reveal the final 2 of the Oceanic 6.

Jennifer, what are you talking about? Widmore wasn't in the race, it was a race he organized. He is alive and well.

Oceanic 5
Hurley
Jack
Kate
Sayid
Desmond

Desmond wasn't on the Oceanic flight, and therefore isn't one of the Oceanic 6.

Desmond is not O6- he was not on the plane and the show has not shown Desmond post island, he simply has made it to the freighter.

Go to LostHatch.com and check out Paulo. If you remember he is the one that was left paralyzed by the spider bite and buried alive. Also stole the diamonds. I could be wrong but he looks a lot like the guy being roughed up by Widmore.

Aaron, however WAS on the flight

I MIGHT UPSET SOME PEOPLE HERE BUT I PERSONALLY THOUGHT LAST WEEKS EPISODE SUCKED! IM NOT A FAN OF DESMOND AND REALLY COULD CARE LESS ABOUT HIM. I DO HOWEVER LOVE BEN! THEREFORE LAST NIGHTS EPISODE WAS GREAT FOR ME, EVEN THO I CANT STAND JULIET EITHER. YOU HAD TO LOVE WHEN BEN WAS SHOWING JULIET GOODWINS DEAD BODY AND TOLD HER TO TAKE ALL THE TIME SHE NEEDED AND JUST TURNED AND RAN AWAY! THE SCENES BETWEEN HIM AND LOCKE WERE PRICELESS! AND THEN THE FINAL SCENE "SEE YOU AT DINNER" I MEAN REALLY? THE SHOW JUST LEFT ME IN A GREAT MOOD!! KISSES TO SAWYER! XOXO

I wasn't blown away with this episode, but I like that we are getting a little something now from each new episode. I was getting frustrated with the adding of new layers without ever getting any answers. So, I'm satisfied with how this season is going and look forward to each new episode this season. Does anyone have a link to the transcripts of the "whispers" from last night's episode? I love reading them....soooooo creepy!

SaraK - what an interesting theory that Locke is the man on the boat in another time. That would be cool and explain why he would have to sit down to hear it. I'm not sure how that would work though because I don't think island time and frieghter time are that far apart. Cool theory though.

I liked this episode. It had more island mysteries in it which I love. And no FF's which I found refreshing. I like the FF's, but sparingly.

Yeah - Desmond was not on the flight, but Aaron could certainly be considered one of the O6.

I just got to say...any episode without Sayid is a dissapointment. He is Hot with a capitol H! If my being assasinated by Sayid meant that I would first get to sleep with him...I would die a happy woman!
I think Walt is Ben's "man" on the boat..and he tells Locke to sit down because
once he explains the time difference-years have passed instead of months...and Walt is now a young adult...Locke will be shocked. Michael is on the boat also...but as a prisoner, forcing Walt to use his special powers to help Ben protect the island. I also think that Walt is being groomed to be the next protector of the island.
I have noticed something funny in the majority of the posts...although I thought the kiss between Jack and Juliet was high on the gross out factor...people are quick to condemm Juliet for her actions. What about Kate? She has played Jack and Sawyer this entire time...one minute she loves Jack...then the next she is sleeping with Sawyer.
My favs are Sayid and Hurley. I think Hurley is adorable! Sawyer is pretty hot too! I don't like Desmond (don't trust him) and Jack is way too wishy-washy for me.
Wish they would bring Rose and Bernard back into the story and will be glad to find out more about Sun and Jin next week.
Thanks for listening!

Oceanic 5 or 6
Hurley
Kate
Jack
Sayid
Desmond
and the baby with Kate

Anonymous @ 09:37am - WHY ARE YOU SHOUTING???

you can't consider aaron as one of the 6, a passenger is only a passenger who's name is on the manifest. being inside your mother's pregnant stomach doesn't count as being a passenger until you're actually born- sorry

Even though Aaron's name's not on the manifest, he was a survivor of Oceanic Flight 815

I think this episode was not that good, but any Lost is better than other shows. The only good parts involved Ben and Locke, and I'm just loving that wacky Ben more and more. Juliet, on the other hand, I'm liking less and less. And lest you think I'm only picking on Juliet for the adultery, I don't like Goodwin either. And his wife is just beyond creepy, and not in a good sort of way like Ben. Best Ben lines since "Man From Tallahassee." He saved the show. And is anyone REALLY not liking Charlotte? She bugs me.